Mistake in posting sorry

[Sassafras]

Mistake in posting sorry

Never mind. :0{

[marriedbears]

Mogey

[QuiltyConscience]

is it the map?


what do I win?

[PrincessEmilysMommy]

The Map!

[marriedbears]

I still see a map on my account page.

[PrincessEmilysMommy]

Yay! I'm so glad!

[RedheadbyChoice]

:)

[marriedbears]

Yeah!!!!!
Why is it gone is the question I would like answered? Did we finally get the point across or does it take up too much space?

[PrincessEmilysMommy]

I really hope that means some of those who have left because of the map will return. There are a few I miss dearly!

[Racy]

http://www.breastfeeding.com/social/index.php?do=/public/usermap/

It's not gone? o.o

[PrincessEmilysMommy]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[marriedbears]

Shit I just announced it at the other board. Oh what a fool I am.

[Tweet]

I see it on the link that showed up, but if it really is going to be gone, I am thrilled. that damned thing caused too many problems.

[Sassafras]

I still see a map on my account page.


Yes that will stay but no one can see it but you.

[lasagna]

Yes that will stay but no one can see it but you.

What about the one racy linked?

[Sassafras]

Yeah!!!!!
Why is it gone is the question I would like answered? Did we finally get the point across or does it take up too much space?


No one was using it. No one was clicking on it. So it is gone, out of here, History!

[lasagna]

What about the map in Racy's link?

[marriedbears]

At the bottom of the page is a link that says The Mom Map. Takes you to the map.

[Sassafras]

What about the one racy linked?


I don't know about the link. All the tabs to click on to get to the map are gone.

[Blondie]

What is "The Map" that has caused problems?

[Sassafras]

At the bottom of the page is a link that says The Mom Map. Takes you to the map.



Thanks I will get that one taken off too. Missed that one.

[lasagna]

I don't know about the link. All the tabs to click on to get to the map are gone.

I've looked at the map 3 times, since the start of this thread.

How can you tell us the map is gone, when it's not?

And what exactly does that mean, that "all the tabs to click on to get to the map are gone" mean? That doesn't mean the MAP itself is gone at all does it?

[Blondie]

Oh my....where is my popcorn.

[bebeisa]

Happy dance here!

[Sassafras]

Well, I was excited about getting rid of the map but now my parade has been rained on.
Never mind. I guess I am still working on getting rid of the map.:(

[gobucks1013]

I'm a little confusticated too. If I click the "Mom Map" link at the bottom of this page, I still get the Mom Map.

Hmmmm.....:confused:

[marriedbears]

Keep trying please. They should be able to delete it all together. It is just codes right. Ugh! Sorry Sassy

[Blondie]

Don't be hard on yourself Sass.

[marriedbears]

I'd link you to the discussions, but those went bye bye. Basically there is a map that you opt into when you very first sign up. It was not alway and opt in. Big deal was made about privacy, people boycotted, owner of the site was rude so people continued their boycott to this day.

[Nipple_nectar]

What is "The Map" that has caused problems?

The abridged version with my jaded opinion included, of course: This feature was enacted as a surprise for all of BFDC...a map that reveals your location. Except it wasn't very accurate and showed most of us living in Kansas.

The bigger problem was that most of us weren't revealing our personal information to that degree to all you yahoo's anyway.

It was only revealed after all the personal info had been hanging out for all to see for days.

When it was announced there was a select group that was rather annoyed that we were not consulted prior to the unveiling as to whether or not we wanted our personal information flaunted all over the planet.

So, we brought our concerns to the almighty Victor and what ensued can be colorfully demonstrated by many.

An even larger group was particularly annoyed by Vic's response: content and length of time seemed to exacerbate any effort to resolve this issue.

It was then determined by an undetermined amount that we should leave this place that we had called home for so long and flock to a place of safety and respect. Where we were free to discuss the situations that pleased us without further dictatorship in any form.

It was better and bigger than the parting of the Red sea, that is all.

[Tweet]

The Mom Map link is still at the bottom of the page.

Rae, maybe you need to take the link down, too? What if a weirdo saves it.

[Blondie]

I'd link you to the discussions, but those went bye bye. Basically there is a map that you opt into when you very first sign up. It was not alway and opt in. Big deal was made about privacy, people boycotted, owner of the site was rude so people continued their boycott to this day.

Oh wow. Thanks for the clarification. I hope the map will be gone and those that boycotted will come back. How sad.

[PrincessEmilysMommy]

So it's not gone? :(

[Beautifuldisaster2003]

:(

[StElmosFire]

Bye, bye little map.

[Blondie]

The abridged version with my jaded opinion included, of course: This feature was enacted as a surprise for all of BFDC...a map that reveals your location. Except it wasn't very accurate and showed most of us living in Kansas.

The bigger problem was that most of us weren't revealing our personal information to that degree to all you yahoo's anyway.

It was only revealed after all the personal info had been hanging out for all to see for days.

When it was announced there was a select group that was rather annoyed that we were not consulted prior to the unveiling as to whether or not we wanted our personal information flaunted all over the planet.

So, we brought our concerns to the almighty Victor and what ensued can be colorfully demonstrated by many.

An even larger group was particularly annoyed by Vic's response: content and length of time seemed to exacerbate any effort to resolve this issue.

It was then determined by an undetermined amount that we should leave this place that we had called home for so long and flock to a place of safety and respect. Where we were free to discuss the situations that pleased us without further dictatorship in any form.

It was better and bigger than the parting of the Red sea, that is all.

Thanks for your time replying. I am sorry things went the way they did. I hope it can get resolved soon.

[Amy_G_]

You mean all my nagging has finally paid off.

snicker


If the map is truly gone,
after causing such distruction within this board
I will caution---

think before you act bf.com
market reasearch to find out what your users really want.
don't just make stuff thinking we'll like it.
cause usually we don't like the ideas that Victor comes up with, and they aren't always thought thru very carefully for safety and useability.

[QuiltyConscience]

SO the maps not gone, but it is going? Right?

[Nipple_nectar]

Sassy~ are you working on removing the map feature?

[MiMi_of_4]

I highly recommend you assign the task to the guy who erased all the threads and history. He did a bang-up job! LOL

[Sassafras]

I highly recommend you assign the task to the guy who erased all the threads and history. He did a bang-up job! LOL


lol that is exactly the guy that will be removing the map. "hahaha"

[Crabbie]

snort, thanks, now I have that 'choked on coke burn' in my nose.

[Tweet]

Sassy, do you know when that guy is supposed to get started?

[Sassafras]

All I know is he will be working on removing the links soon. The map will still be in your profile but no one can see it but you.

[JudyJudyJudy]

:)

[QuiltyConscience]

lol that is exactly the guy that will be removing the map. "hahaha"

Well, that's good. He seems to be good at disappearing things.

[FullCream]

Just checking post count

[FullCream]

OK, there's over 3500 posts gone. I guess that's the final sign for me.

Good bye bf.com

[Babyhellfire]

Did you actually have that many since the last bf.com update???

ETA: and is it really that important?

[nikkifaith]

No shit. I will never get the emotional investment in one's post count.

[JudyJudyJudy]

I had not even noticed that my post count had changed. I guess I need to pay more attention to things. "lol9"

[JudyJudyJudy]

OK, there's over 3500 posts gone. I guess that's the final sign for me.

Good bye bf.com
FC, I have seen you post so infrequently that I thought you had already left. I won't pretend to have opened all threads, but I haven't seen you give support to anyone since the map thing (and I've had many such threads myself). In fact, the only positive thread that I've seen you post on was Leo's. Other than that, I've only seen you post on threads in defense of IHMMB, etc.

[Racy]

Why does post count matter?

We know who you are, we know you've posted.

[Tweet]

FC, I have seen you post so infrequently that I thought you had already left. I won't pretend to have opened all threads, but I haven't seen you give support to anyone since the map thing (and I've had many such threads myself). In fact, the only positive thread that I've seen you post on was Leo's. Other than that, I've only seen you post on threads in defense of IHMMB, etc.


Me, too. I thought FC had already left because I hadn't seen her post in so long. The post count thing really seems so minor..like a mild irritation sort of thing. I guess I'm surprised it would be anyone's last straw.

[tata]

FC, I have seen you post so infrequently that I thought you had already left. I won't pretend to have opened all threads, but I haven't seen you give support to anyone since the map thing (and I've had many such threads myself). In fact, the only positive thread that I've seen you post on was Leo's. Other than that, I've only seen you post on threads in defense of IHMMB, etc.
I agree 100% Judy, especially considering the frequent complaining FC has done when no one responded to her personal threads looking for support and all the need for support that we've had around here since the GMD2008.

[Amy_G_]

I agree 100% Judy, especially considering the frequent complaining FC has done when no one responded to her personal threads looking for support and all the need for support that we've had around here since the GMD2008.

FC used to give a lot of support.
most likely one of the reasons she didnt give much support after a while is because nobody gave her any support. you get tired of giving and not receiving.

And it's very nice to basically say to someone,
oh goodbye, but I didn't really know you were here anyway.

A great way to make someone feel invisible.
There is no way to search and find her posts to show how recently she posted, since the whole damned debate board disappeared.

[FullCream]

Judy, I haven't posted a lot over the last few months. I've posted around 50 times in support of various poster's problems and difficulties, and in congratulation, but have lurked a lot more than I've posted since the map debacle. Until the last month when I've been ill with pneumonia, I've signficantly reduced my online time as I've been working (substitute teaching).

Over the years I've been here I've given a lot of support and information. It's not the loss of my 'post count' that I was irked about. It was the fact that my history as an involved poster had been reduced to that of a complete newbie.

Thanks AmyG. I know we've had some very big disagreements in the past, but I really appreciate your post.

The fact that my requests for support over the years I have been a member have been reduced to whining and complaining makes it very clear that I'm not welcome here, and I will no longer be posting or lurking.

This site has been an important part of my life for nearly ten years. I have made some wonderful real-life friends, learned a lot and hopefully helped people with both breastfeeding and personal challenges. I am sad to be basically told 'well bugger off then, we don't want you or care about you'.

As soon as I receive responses to a couple of PMs I've sent, I will be asking to be unregistered.

[marriedbears]

What!!

You are going to allow a few posters to determine your exit. FC you have surprised me. I do wish that you would allow more of us to offer support and appreciation in what you do contribute here.

I actually have missed you posting here and was unaware that I had not been supportive of your struggles as I was not aware that you were having any. I'm sorry to have been negligent.

[Babyhellfire]

A complete noobie??
I really don't get that.

Nothing against you personally FC,I have never quite understood the attachment to post count,from anyone.It just seems so ridiculous.

Its not like at some other boards(many other boards I an not referring to any on specific here),were 100-1000s posts frees up something for you,higher post count is just a number that few here even notice.and besides,some of the most recognizable posters have been ones that post very infrequently,but post amazing things in those few posts...while some noobies come and post.one.word.at.a .time ,and get a high number.
All of our posts have been reset.The regulars here KNOW who the regulars are. We remember and will always remember regardless of history left on the board, what we choose to remember about each other,what sticks out for us personally.
It just seems an incredibly petty and trivial thing to be concerned over.
Esspecially considering,since the whole board remodel,few had reupped very many posts HERE,and I honestly hadn't seen you around that much. I HAD seen you give a lot of support and info prior to the whole map thing,but not really since it.



I am not even sure what you are reffering to with this:
"The fact that my requests for support over the years I have been a member have been reduced to whining and complaining makes it very clear that I'm not welcome here, and I will no longer be posting or lurking."
I am always willing to support someone ,keep them in my good thoughts when needed.I am really sorry if you feel that way.


I do understand being a bit miffed that threads have been deleted,
I feel like I was interrupted in the middle of quite few convos and now I can't even remember what I was talking about.
But,I understand it was a mistake,in attempt to better the board.

..but even that seems kind of trival to be incredibly upset over ,considering over time convos would have died,and probably fell off the page into oblivion anyway.

[Tweet]

FC, I felt I always made an effort to read what you posted in the past and felt I posted support to you. I knew for a fact you hadn't posted on the debate board in awhile since I specifically usually look for your threads (in regards to what Amy G said)

I really figured you'd just gone on completely to the other board. I do have to say, I now feel a bit hurt to know you'd been lurking this whole time and you haven't posted on any of my threads about my dad or what I've been physically going through. I'm just going to assume you didn't see them and lurked on days when they'd fallen off the first page.

I don't think anyone intended to say "bugger off". I just think a lot of us thought you had already moved on and didn't care for it here anymore on the debate board.

[Tweet]

What!!

You are going to allow a few posters to determine your exit. FC you have surprised me. I do wish that you would allow more of us to offer support and appreciation in what you do contribute here.

I actually have missed you posting here and was unaware that I had not been supportive of your struggles as I was not aware that you were having any. I'm sorry to have been negligent.


She hasn't posted them on here, MB. Not for a long time. So, it's not that you or anyone was being negligent . Unless you're referring to pre-exodus. If so, I'll shush.

[FullCream]

FC, I felt I always made an effort to read what you posted in the past and felt I posted support to you. I knew for a fact you hadn't posted on the debate board in awhile since I specifically usually look for your threads (in regards to what Amy G said)

I really figured you'd just gone on completely to the other board. I do have to say, I now feel a bit hurt to know you'd been lurking this whole time and you haven't posted on any of my threads about my dad or what I've been physically going through. I'm just going to assume you didn't see them and lurked on days when they'd fallen off the first page.

I don't think anyone intended to say "bugger off". I just think a lot of us thought you had already moved on and didn't care for it here anymore on the debate board.

I know that I posted at least once Tweet, and I thought I'd posted a couple of times. I am very sorry you've been having so many difficulties.

I haven't followed everything that's been going on. I've been much busier than I used to be (until early April when I came down with pneumonia). I've posted in support of quite a few posters when I could and in congratulation too, but I've not read every thread.

I haven't posted anything asking for support for myself over that time, although I have done several times over the years I've been a member.

tata was very clear in her statement to me ...frequent complaining FC has done when no one responded to her personal threads looking for support... (which was what I was referring to re. my threads asking for support being reduced to whining and complaining). Racy didn't quite have the balls to be just as rude.

Yes, the post count was a minor thing. That's why they're called 'last straws' ;) I have contemplated getting involved in lots of the debate threads over the last few months (and have done a lot of head-nodding to your posts Tweet, as well as to other posters). There have been several reasons I haven't done so. Having my whole posting history disappear was kind of symbolic: like the last message that it was time to cut ties with the board :)

[Carolina]

I hope you don't leave, FC. I think you are a very nice poster and I don't know why you feel that you are not welcome here. I'm pretty sure a lot of ppl like you and want you to stay.

[marriedbears]

Felling a bit uncomfortable here, maybe misplaced, but your silence to my comments speaks volumes. Again if I have offended I'm sorry.

[Tweet]

I see what you mean now, FC. I suppose if I were thinking of already just leaving, there would be something of a last straw for me as well.

But, I do hope you know that we'd all remember you and know you weren't a noob. I hope you do feel better from the pneumonia. Very scary stuff.

[FullCream]

What!!

You are going to allow a few posters to determine your exit. FC you have surprised me. I do wish that you would allow more of us to offer support and appreciation in what you do contribute here.

I actually have missed you posting here and was unaware that I had not been supportive of your struggles as I was not aware that you were having any. I'm sorry to have been negligent.

No MB, I'm not allowing a few posters to determine my exit. It's just time for me to go for a lot of reasons. Some of them are administrative-driven (not Sassy), some of them personality-driven, some of them related to overall board dynamics, and one (a very minor one!) because my posts and history have all disappeared. I think it's very telling that someone with whom I've had very little personal interaction was keen to speed me on my way via blatant rudeness and mean-spiritedness. (I thank those of you who responded pleasantly).

In terms of struggles, I've not posted about any here for a very long time. I don't think I've ever been a particularly "needy" poster, even though there have been issues about which I've asked for advice and/or support.

[RedheadbyChoice]

All I can add here is 'fucking map.'

gah!!!!!

[Tweet]

At least the map is supposed to be going, Red. Although I admit to being a little scared when he gets to working on it, lol.

[marriedbears]

Red I could not agree more. So many things would be different if our wishes had been respected.

FC I do wish you well.

[still_me]

FC,

We haven't spoken before, but I am sad that one more experienced voice is leaving the new mommas that are coming here.

[RedheadbyChoice]

I'm telling you, though, if that dude from the UK keeps dicking around with deleting threads, I *will* have to go over there and kick his ass. :D

[Racy]

Be well, FC.

I wish things could be different.

[marriedbears]

Put me in your luggage Red I want to meet Gordon Ramsay.

[RedheadbyChoice]

:)

FC-----I loves ya. :hug:

[HammBugga]

Put me in your luggage Red I want to meet Gordon Ramsay.


Isn't hells kitchen in L.A. where you are?

[marriedbears]

Yes, but I wish to dine at The F word

[HammBugga]

I wanted some of that pizza from last week. And the creme brulee.

[Nipple_nectar]

FC, I am feeling the same awkward undercurrent here and most of the time I am scratching my head, trying to find a reason on why I should stay.

All I can say is, I do know how you feel. I am not saying goodbye to you because we are destined to cross paths again:-)

[Tweet]

Sheesh..I'd think the people here would be the reason why you'd stay, NN . I'm not sure what awkward undercurrent there is, aside from there not being as many people. And Mogey. Mogey really mucks it up.

[Babyhellfire]

If you are looking for negative-for reasons to leave,problems, errors,wrongs or "last straws"-no matter what the subject , or where you are-you are going find them in something ,or nothing ,you will find them.


I AM sad to see people saying they will leave over trivial things,or "undercurrents".
I am sad I feel like people I like will be leaving ,or even looking for reasons to leave.
i mean,i'm here.that should be enough for everyone to stay.
LOL

[Nipple_nectar]

Sheesh..I'd think the people here would be the reason why you'd stay, NN . I'm not sure what awkward undercurrent there is, aside from there not being as many people. And Mogey. Mogey really mucks it up.

The people are the reason I am still here, Silly! I just wish it would be the way it was. The awkwardness I am referring to is really the dynamic of the board and we all must agree that it has, indeed changed.

I remember reading statements like this and thought, WTH~ then why don't you just go? I honestly never felt I would be one of those posters. But when you have been here as long as I have, it is inevitable that you reminisce about certain periods or era's and miss certain people who go.

I am not going to sit here and act like the whole map debacle did not forever change things for me and so many others who are no longer here. For any one person to act like it hasn't had a detrimental effect, well, that's just bullshit.

Is it okay for me to mourn for what our board used to be?

[Tweet]

Sure, NN. Sometimes I still get upset about it, too. I'm just really hoping this place continues to grow because it would make me feel even worse to see it totally peter out to nothing.

[J-A-N-E]

No shit. I will never get the emotional investment in one's post count.


Ditto. Wow

[creme]

All I know is he will be working on removing the links soon. The map will still be in your profile but no one can see it but you.

I am confused.

1 - Why is the map being removed?

2 - If the map is still in the profile and everybody can still see it in their profile, it's not really removed, is it? Does that mean that members will still be located on the map but it will only be viewable by logging into our profiles? If so, it's not really removed, it's just a few more clicks to get to it.

Please clarify.

[lasagna]

The map will still exist. They're trying to make is such that there aren't any easy links to it.

For example, when sassy first thought the map was "gone," absolutely nothing had been done to get rid of the map itself: only the links at the tops of the pages on this site were removed.

If they do get the other links removed, I'm sure that anyone who has the map saved in their bookmarks/favorites, will still be able to see it just fine.

I believe the map in one's profile, only shows your own location on the map.

[JudyJudyJudy]

FC used to give a lot of support.
most likely one of the reasons she didnt give much support after a while is because nobody gave her any support. you get tired of giving and not receiving.
Nobody? Wow, that's pretty broad. How do you define "nobody"? I know for a fact that anytime I'm on the board (which has been a bit less since I started my current job, especially at first), I've always opened FC's threads and responded.

[tata]

FC used to give a lot of support.
most likely one of the reasons she didnt give much support after a while is because nobody gave her any support. you get tired of giving and not receiving.

No one is saying that FC has never been supportive. What I *did* say was that she hasn't posted in support of anyone since the GMD2008, although she saw fit to mope that her threads were not receiving support just before the GMB2008.

Judy, I haven't posted a lot over the last few months. I've posted around 50 times in support of various poster's problems and difficulties, and in congratulation, but have lurked a lot more than I've posted since the map debacle. Until the last month when I've been ill with pneumonia, I've signficantly reduced my online time as I've been working (substitute teaching).

Over the years I've been here I've given a lot of support and information. It's not the loss of my 'post count' that I was irked about. It was the fact that my history as an involved poster had been reduced to that of a complete newbie.

Thanks AmyG. I know we've had some very big disagreements in the past, but I really appreciate your post.

The fact that my requests for support over the years I have been a member have been reduced to whining and complaining makes it very clear that I'm not welcome here, and I will no longer be posting or lurking.

This site has been an important part of my life for nearly ten years. I have made some wonderful real-life friends, learned a lot and hopefully helped people with both breastfeeding and personal challenges. I am sad to be basically told 'well bugger off then, we don't want you or care about you'.

As soon as I receive responses to a couple of PMs I've sent, I will be asking to be unregistered.
FC, really it is no skin off of my nose that you request support. What bothers me is that you request support and then do not offer any in return, despite the fact that you are lurking. IMO, that says "I don't care about you." The only posts I personally have seen you make since the GMD2008 have been rather unsavory and mean-spirited.

You have not been reduced to a complete newbie. Many of us still here recognize you and those who *are* new would very likely see the others of us treat you like an old friend/member and follow suit.

You are certainly welcome here. I think the only person not welcome here is mogey. :p

I'm absolutely certain that your presence here *has* helped others with BF and personal challenges.

No one is telling you to bugger off.

[creme]

The map will still exist. They're trying to make is such that there aren't any easy links to it.

For example, when sassy first thought the map was "gone," absolutely nothing had been done to get rid of the map itself: only the links at the tops of the pages on this site were removed.

If they do get the other links removed, I'm sure that anyone who has the map saved in their bookmarks/favorites, will still be able to see it just fine.

I believe the map in one's profile, only shows your own location on the map.


Why? In case I can't find my way home?

I mean what's the point? Why is this being done? Was there another discussion thread for this, and if so can somebody link me? I tried to search on "map" but that's not enough letters to search this &*^$%# system.

Should I spin off, because this thread seems to have strayed from the map subject.

[tata]

No, it hasn't been discussed. There isn't anything to link you to. All was lost a few days ago so there are no threads (save for the old ones that are now gone) about the map.

[FullCream]

What bothers me is that you request support and then do not offer any in return, despite the fact that you are lurking.
This is incorrect. I have posted about 50 times on support and congratulatory threads since the map debacle and my reduced on-line time.

And as for the 'unsavoury and mean-spirited' posts, I suspect you're referring to my refusal to allow inaccuracies about the boycott and IHMMB be perpetuated as truths. I'm also quite sure that you're so used to writing in an unsavoury, mean-spirited tone yourself that you read it in the posts of others even when it's not there.

[Amy_G_]

Why? In case I can't find my way home?

I mean what's the point? Why is this being done? Was there another discussion thread for this, and if so can somebody link me? I tried to search on "map" but that's not enough letters to search this &*^$%# system.

Should I spin off, because this thread seems to have strayed from the map subject.
I guess you'd want your location on your profile page, so that people who click on your profile and you have it set to everyone to see, they'll know where you live.

and you can't search for shit on this site due to the deletion of all our history. I think that really really sucks!

you can spin off a discussion of the map, but I don't think anyone really wants to talk about it anymore.

[Carolina]

OMG! FC is gone :( That sucks!

[Amy_G_]

yeah, it's very sad that fullcream is gone.
this site doesn't need regulars to run off any more long time posters! Mogey is working on running off so many on her own. :(

[Babyhellfire]

I don't think regulars ran off fullcream.
I think fullcream was looking for a reason to leave,and loosing her post count was it.

[Amy_G_]

I don't think the regular's attitude towards full cream made her rethink her reaction to the posts being deleted, now did it?

[Babyhellfire]

I said how I feel about this already. I am damn sad to see fullcream go.
but, I do think(and I think she made it clear) that she was looking for a reason to leave,and that if you search anywhere looking for negatives, you will find them,whether they are real or perceived -you are going to find them.

[JudyJudyJudy]

I can't believe that anyone would really let Mogey run him/her off. "lol9"

Also, I agree with bhf's last post.

[EvilAmy]

I agree Judy that is laughable about Mogey. Even after her low blow to me it's the lamest low blow I've ever received here and yet, it wasn't enough to make me cringe. Well except for her lack coherency.

[marriedbears]

I'm leaving because of Mogey.











































;)

[Amy_G_]

eh, people won't be driven off by mogey. Maybe annoy people enough so they stay away from bf.com.
I think many are getting very tired of putting up with the never ending crap, and having to force their posts to be seen around all her shitty posts clogging up the board. Newbies may give up trying to post, because it's easy to get mistaken as mogey.

[Sassafras]

eh, people won't be driven off by mogey. Maybe annoy people enough so they stay away from bf.com.
I think many are getting very tired of putting up with the never ending crap, and having to force their posts to be seen around all her shitty posts clogging up the board. Newbies may give up trying to post, because it's easy to get mistaken as mogey.



So do you have any suggestions.
I have
Deleted her accounts
Deleted her post
Deleted her threads
Banned her by screen names
Banned her by IP#
Reported her to her Internet provider.

If you know of anything that I can do Please let me know.
She is an internet virus and I am not the only one that has to put up with her.
I just banned 3 screen names in less than 24 hours.
Sassy

[Amy_G_]

banning her and her ip address isn't working.
put her on board wide ignore.
whether that's from a click of the admin button, like sybermom's does.
or just the board as a whole ignoring anyone with the vague impression of being mogey.
Don't talk to her,
don't post to her,
don't react to her posting shit.
That just feeds her and makes her stronger and want to continue the game.
If you ban her, we get to play the game of guess which newbie is mogey this time, and next time and the time after.
Instead, let her keep a name that we all recognize as mogey, or as soon as we/you recognize her current id as mogey, change her name so it says mogey, or mogey 1 thru 1000.
so we can avoid her completely.
She'll explode all over the boards with a bunch of shit at first when she realizes she's being ignore.
if she's ignored, her posts are not replied to, and the board as a whole just keeps everything else bumped up to the top, she'll get tired of the game.

Right now she's having fun annoying everyone, trying not to get caught, then getting caught, banned, and starting over. Occassionally she gets tired of that and clogs the board up with tons of messages like yesterday, and the regulars just have to ignore it.

[nikkifaith]

Is Mogey Luna? I wonder if they finally got rid of her.

[Nipple_nectar]

I agree with AmyG 100%! Although the problem is the nOObs, they don't know not to feed the trolls and the bigger problem is we never know who is Mogey and who may be just a new user on the board.

Maybe we need a chain letter/style chain of command for putting Mogeys many persona's on ignore. For example, if AmyG PMs me to say put Blondie on ignore, she is definitely Mogey, I would PM Tweet with the same message.

I don't think Admin is going to be able to solve this, it needs to be done by the community. Remember Happy father? He did not leave until we as an entire group, ignored every post made by him.

[Sassafras]

banning her and her ip address isn't working.

No, to get a new IP# simply unplug your computer and plug it back in.
put her on board wide ignore. If she were only one screen name that would be fine. Like I said she has had three names in the last 24 hours. I could put each on ignore, I do ban each one so she can not continue to post. I still have to find the names as each appears the same as I do now. Ignore and ban does nothing to detour her. She comes back as someone else
whether that's from a click of the admin button, like sybermom's does.
or just the board as a whole ignoring anyone with the vague impression of being mogey. The boards as a whole just keeps posting on her threads. Sometimes they don't know it is her until she post a few times.
Don't talk to her, I don't and I encourage the board to put the troll on Ignore
don't post to her, Same as last comment
don't react to her posting shit. I just delete her posts especially when like last night we had 50 of the same threads.
That just feeds her and makes her stronger and want to continue the game.
If you ban her, we get to play the game of guess which newbie is mogey this time, and next time and the time after. It does not matter if she is banned or not. She would not keep to the same screen name but have a dozen that she would post with. Already tried that.
Instead, let her keep a name that we all recognize as mogey, or as soon as we/you recognize her current id as mogey, change her name so it says mogey, or mogey 1 thru 1000.
so we can avoid her completely. She just changes to another name
She'll explode all over the boards with a bunch of shit at first when she realizes she's being ignore. Ignore does not bother her she just comes back as someone else
if she's ignored, her posts are not replied to, and the board as a whole just keeps everything else bumped up to the top, she'll get tired of the game. She came from the other boards. I have delt with her for over a year. She is having fun and does not have a life
Right now she's having fun annoying everyone, trying not to get caught, then getting caught, banned, and starting over. Occassionally she gets tired of that and clogs the board up with tons of messages like yesterday, and the regulars just have to ignore it.

Any more suggestions. I am open to anything. Sassy:confused:

[Crabbie]

I think Mrs R has a good idea. I've already ignored the ones I though were Mogey. Now I just have to learn to ignore the crazy on myspace and I'll be all good.

[still_me]

So, we all agree to refuse to be troll porn?

I wonder if the UK guys can make a program that red flags new members and has to allow either a MOD or Sassy to approve them?

Side note here: Can we call this guy the UK guy or is it offensive like the "China" guy? ;)

[Amy_G_]

Sassy there hasn't been any consistency in how the board has dealt with the mogey and her trolls. there has been no board wide ignoring.
sometimes we are taken in by her in her new names and that is the game she's having the most fun with. tricking us to post to her and give her real answers and then someone's troll alarm goes off.

It really doesn't seem like you've been dealing with this for a whole year. months yes, maybe even 6 months?

having to re-identify her when you ban her existing user name makes the board unable to ignore her consistently. Once a new user id is identified we need to know.

deleting her posts makes it really hard for the board to know who she is, and look for her pattern in posting styles. but heck, there isn't any history here to compare it to anything to anymore. while some of our memories are good, we are not infallible.

I would NOT recommend putting all newbies into the same group where their posts have to be approved before posting. there are too many newbies and too hard to go thru and monitor for a moderator or even a dozen moderators. I've done that on a much smaller board and after a while you either get backlogged or you just start approving everything cause they all look the same. It's also censorship.

[Sassafras]

So, we all agree to refuse to be troll porn?

I wonder if the UK guys can make a program that red flags new members and has to allow either a MOD or Sassy to approve them?

Side note here: Can we call this guy the UK guy or is it offensive like the "China" guy? ;)



I have that option. I can activate a setting that email addresses have to be approved before you can post on the boards.

I do not think that will work. Mogey will just sign up a million times with yahoo, hotmail, aol etc.

[still_me]

Sassy there hasn't been any consistency in how the board has dealt with the mogey and her trolls. there has been no board wide ignoring.
sometimes we are taken in by her in her new names and that is the game she's having the most fun with. tricking us to post to her and give her real answers and then someone's troll alarm goes off.

It really doesn't seem like you've been dealing with this for a whole year. months yes, maybe even 6 months?

having to re-identify her when you ban her existing user name makes the board unable to ignore her consistently. Once a new user id is identified we need to know.

deleting her posts makes it really hard for the board to know who she is, and look for her pattern in posting styles. but heck, there isn't any history here to compare it to anything to anymore. while some of our memories are good, we are not infallible.

I would NOT recommend putting all newbies into the same group where their posts have to be approved before posting. there are too many newbies and too hard to go thru and monitor for a moderator or even a dozen moderators. I've done that on a much smaller board and after a while you either get backlogged or you just start approving everything cause they all look the same. It's also censorship.


I was talking about approving members, not their posts.


I see what you mean Sassy about the whole email thing. I know you are doing what you can to banish her. I was just thinking that maybe you could track new members a little more easier. It is sad that I just had to say "track new members".

[Sassafras]

I have a list of new members at my finger tips. I still have to keep checking every day or hour or minute what ever it takes. To much time involved.

[Amy_G_]

Since you don't have time to babysit the boards 24/7/365, mogey sneaks back in when you aren't looking.
that's why I said months ago that banning doesn't take care of trolls. boring them to death and ignoring them runs them off.

[Babyhellfire]

So sassy should monitor OUR reaction to her? We should be censored from communicating with someone who is new?
The whole board should get a message that some newbi MIGHT be mogey??
Honestly, few bait her anymore...once we realize who she is she is ignored..but what then??
She comes back as a new person-and no one has a clue its her,and they treat her with the same welcome they give any newbie.Just "ignore" her when she fills the board with spam and post after post until the board is unusable for the rest of us-and unwelcoming to noobs who do need help?

[Bohemian]

I'm on board for ignoring her. I think AmyG is right in the fact that the only thing that will work is ignoring her. When she fills up the board, continue to ignore her and bump valid posts.

I wish I had a suggestion for you Sassy but I really think you're doing all you can.

[Babyhellfire]

I guess I don't get how thats working,or how we need to change what we are doing, if that is what we are already doing.

[still_me]

I just wanted to say that I wasn't saying censor anyone. I was looking it as Sassy could see who was new and check their IP's. If it was one that it had used before then Sassy could check on her easier. I am not for censorship. Fuckity, ***** Fuck

ETA Damn it! That wasn't censored! I was going for funny there.

ETA2 Ah ha! I got one to be censored.

[Amy_G_]

If we could look back at posts, once someone realizes the OP is mogey, the post goes on and on with people patting each other on the back about how they just knew it was mogey and how she gave herself away. That gives her more attention.

There is no easy way to make this stop right now since it's gone on so long. but deleting the threads and banning mogey puts us all back at square one with the next mogey impersonation (s). Then the regulars are suspicious of every newbie and activity here dwindles even further.

[Amy_G_]

still_me,
the prob is that mogey doesn't ever use the same IP again because all her old IP's are blocked/banned. She may use a similar IP but that also has the possibility of grabbing someone that is not mogey that has a similar IP #. That has already happened.

[marriedbears]

I am all for ignoring her, but she does need to be identified so she can be ignored.

[marriedbears]

I get no pleasure in IDing Mogey. I honestly have the intention of protecting. I have even offered to leave if it meant she /he/ it would leave, but never got a response.

[Bohemian]

I guess I don't get how thats working,or how we need to change what we are doing, if that is what we are already doing.


I don't think we are ignoring her as a community. She is still getting the negative reactions she is looking for when she starts stuff. She is eating it up. Everyone would have to agree and really not react when she shows up. If she acts normal and then goes off, start ignoring her then. I really think we would all have to be united and it's the only way to run her off.

[still_me]

I get no pleasure in IDing Mogey. I honestly have the intention of protecting. I have even offered to leave if it meant she /he/ it would leave, but never got a response.


It doesn't matter (to her) if you are here or not. I think if any ID'ing happens it should be to Sassy, not the board, and then Sassy can inform everyone. I think it is pretty obvious to the board when she does go all loco or instantly attacks someone.

I agree with Boho's last comment.

[marriedbears]

To a degree I agree that she can be obvious and usually I email Sassafras my suspicions first, but lately because of the multiple accounts Sassy can't prove it to be Mogey. Blondie is a perfect example. It was only over time and obvious strange posts that confirmation of her identity was made. I was called out (I understand why and have no hard feelings) that I was calling Mogey on every newbie (not true, but again I have no animosity).

[marriedbears]

I know I am the biggest "offender" in this area just go easy on me. I really am trying to help and am open to suggestions on how to better deal with this.:hugegrin:

[tata]

Just breathe :)

[still_me]

I know I am the biggest "offender" in this area just go easy on me. I really am trying to help and am open to suggestions on how to better deal with this.:hugegrin:


If I were you, I'd just stay away from it. Maybe you can PM someone who you see getting sucked into it's void if that helps you feel better.

I know it has to be hard for you to not respond since it brought it to a personal level with you, but that only is feeding it's hunger.