After pics of the wreck

[Kendyllsmommy]

These pics are scanned because they are for court, and I really didn't want to take my digital camera in court. If anyone can and has time, please crop them down.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/001.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/002.jpg

Inside shot, my windshield is crushed.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/003.jpg

This is the seat I jumped in to try to keep her from driving my car, you can still see blood in it pretty bad, my seats used to be in perfect condition.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/004.jpg

ETA:All the dark spots you see in my seat is blood, where I had a skull fracture.

[Kendyllsmommy]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/007.jpg

And some pics of kendyll...
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/010.jpg

My pop and kendyll
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/011.jpg

Kevin and kendyll...it was way too dark to take the pic.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/009.jpg

[Kendyllsmommy]

One more picture of my car.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/kendyllsmommy/008.jpg

The estimated cost to have it fixed is 6,000. We are going to keep it and go that route. On the 21st of this month, I will have my 98 mustang running so I will have something to drive.

[Sameach]

Wow. I'm not familiar with what happened, but those are some scary pictures. I hope you or whoever was driving is/are OK.

I see that you're pretty young. Do you have someone educated who is advising you on this plan to put $6000 into a totaled car that would probably only get you $800 if it was in good condition with a clean accident report? Do your parents agree with this?

[Kendyllsmommy]

Yea...I have been offered 8000 for this car before it was wrecked. It's a real all original GT mustang. The girl that was driving my car ended up with only a broken arm, needless to say we are far from being friends anymore. I got a broken neck, back, ribs, and a skull fracture. It doesn't look too bad considering...idk. Mom is really helping me with it a lot. When court is all done against this girl, her mom will have to pay for everything. My lawyer reassured us of that. She is only 14 so there is no way she should've even been in my car. Her mom lives a good 25 miles from where I do and she didn't even need to be in my area. She was over drinking with her older friends.

[jessiehannan]

Wow. I'm not familiar with what happened, but those are some scary pictures. I hope you or whoever was driving is/are OK.

I see that you're pretty young. Do you have someone educated who is advising you on this plan to put $6000 into a totaled car that would probably only get you $800 if it was in good condition with a clean accident report? Do your parents agree with this?
I have to agree with this. $6000, is a good chunk of money that could go on a down payment on a new car. If you are serious about staying with this guy and having a family with him, you need to consider buying a family car, since you already have two children between the two of you.
Also, I would question the safety of putting my child in a car that has had such major damage, no matter how skillfully repaired.

[Kendyllsmommy]

We have 2 seats in the back of my 98 mustang. Both carseats will fit. I don't really want a new car, unless it's a new mustang. I have mustang fever. My first car is the one you see here and it was bought when I was 14.

[Iconoclast]

Read your Huxley people, really.

OP: surely there is a place that would suit your many needs better than bfdc.

[Kendyllsmommy]

The 89 mustang won't be used to drive the kids around in, it will only be for car shows and cruise in's. When kendyll turns 16, the 89 mustang will be given to her fully restored.

[Givebac]

You let the girl sit in the drivers seat didn't you?

[Kendyllsmommy]

Kinda, yea. She asked to sit there, but I told her DO NOT touch the keys. DO NOT try to touch any of the pedals. I figured maybe she was smart enough to figure out, hey this isn't my car, harlie might be a lil bit pissed if I mess with it. No, she's ignorant. 3 years I owned that car, and NEVER once did I wreck it like that. She will never get her lisence. Btw, the keys were in the car because me and kevin were listening to the cd in it. If you can't see it in the car, my CD player was stolen when my car was towed and I was in the hospital.

[QuiltyConscience]

Yea...I have been offered 8000 for this car before it was wrecked. It's a real all original GT mustang. The girl that was driving my car ended up with only a broken arm, needless to say we are far from being friends anymore. I got a broken neck, back, ribs, and a skull fracture. It doesn't look too bad considering...idk. Mom is really helping me with it a lot. When court is all done against this girl, her mom will have to pay for everything. My lawyer reassured us of that. She is only 14 so there is no way she should've even been in my car. Her mom lives a good 25 miles from where I do and she didn't even need to be in my area. She was over drinking with her older friends.



I am really confused. You let someone who is 14 and had been drinking, in your car in the driver's seat, and now you sue her mother? Or her insurance company? And wasn't she in the same place you were, drinking with older friends?

What does living 25 miles away from you have to do with anything? You didn't mind her living 25 miles away when she got in your car. Why does that matter now?


I don't know how the Lawyer can reassure you that the other mom will pay for everything. Does she have $6000? I don't know that the mom's insurance company would cover that, and just because you sue somebody, and even if you win, you might not ever get any money out of it.

[Bumpy]

what are you looking for kendyllsmommy, do you want support, or are you just trying to get people to rag on you again.
Anyway, i really hope that you are healing, and that you are able to see the needs for you future. I know that you love your mustang, and that it would be hard for you give it up, but you will need to get a car for you kids, especially if you are still going to try to concieve soon. You won't always be 17, and you won't always be living with your mom, so please try to think of that. you will need your own space. I have a dd of my own, and I want another one, but I also now that I need to wait a little while and make sure that things are in order, and I am 25, with my own home and my own car, and my own hubby. I am not saying I am better then anyone, I am saying that with my life pretty well settled, I still need to make sure the balance is there, and we have what we need to make sure that all of our children will have the love and the cherishing that they need, and if I can help it not during a time when life is up in the air (which life can get dumped upside down when we least expect it), because I don't want to put all my attention onto the crisis that is going on if I don't have to, and miss out on the most spectacular thing in the world, our babies.

[HammBugga]

You let the girl sit in the drivers seat didn't you?


Yeah, and told her how to put it into gear. Sorry OP, doesn't sound like you have a case against this girl. Her mother may have a case against you though.

[KerryS]

As a teenaged mother who is trying to get pregnant again, I HIGHLY recommend that you save the $6000 for something more important, like medical bills or baby expenses, rather than sinking into a car. You're not making a very responsible choice.

This is assuming that everything is true

[jessiehannan]

I am really confused. You let someone who is 14 and had been drinking, in your car in the driver's seat, and now you sue her mother? Or her insurance company? And wasn't she in the same place you were, drinking with older friends?

What does living 25 miles away from you have to do with anything? You didn't mind her living 25 miles away when she got in your car. Why does that matter now?


I don't know how the Lawyer can reassure you that the other mom will pay for everything. Does she have $6000? I don't know that the mom's insurance company would cover that, and just because you sue somebody, and even if you win, you might not ever get any money out of it.

This is true as well. If the mom doesn't have the money, all that will be done is a judgment issued against her, and the only way you get the money is if she sells property she owns (house or land), gets a settlement of her own, or inherits money and or property.

[QuiltyConscience]

In this thread:
http://www.breastfeeding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30014



KM , you said this:
I have been in the hospital for a week and a half. My mustang is totaled. One of my friends who is only 14 tryed to drive my car while I was in the back seat buckling down kendyll's carseat. Thank god kendyll wasn't with us. (mom had her in the house at the time while I was buckling down her seat) At only 14, she had no clue how to drive a stick shift. She asked me how to start it and I told her, push in the clutch, on the far left and crank it. She did that and it was already in 1st gear. She popped the clutch, slammed her foot down on the gas thinking it was the brake and the last thing I remember was telling her "NO! The brake is in the middle". She flipped my mustang off of a ten foot embankment, onto the railroad tracks, with the top down. The next thing I reme


Do you intend to lie in court about what happened?

[Iconoclast]

Kerry, you know full well she isn't going to be paying any medical bills. Be serious. ;)

[Kendyllsmommy]

I didn't tell her how to put it in gear. It was already in gear. She just pressed the clutch, started the car, and then dumped the clutch. It all happened so fast. I'm really looking for support. I'm still kinda in shock that I lost my mustang. I thought I would look back 23-30 years from now and be standing beside my car, proud to say I have owned this car since I was 14 years old and I still have it to this day. No, I was not letting the girl drink. Her friends are NOT my friends. I don't support her drinking and wouldn't have known about it until we were at the hospital and she had to give a blood sample to check her alcohol level.

[Sunnie]

Dude, put some shoes on that baby's feet if you are going to let her run around in that mess. I see rocks and broken glass and trash.

[Bumpy]

Your original post and this one do not match!!!
you never once said anything about not touching the pedels or the keys

[Kendyllsmommy]

Exactly, my car was already in gear.

[Kendyllsmommy]

Dude, put some shoes on that baby's feet if you are going to let her run around in that mess. I see rocks and broken glass and trash.


There's no broken glass. She has been ok since she started walking out here, with no shoes on!

[3girls2luv]

I'm confused. You said you will be getting a 98 mustang and the you say its an 89 then you say you have the carseats in the mustang but you won't be driving the kids in it since it will be for show's and cruises. So is it an 98 or 89? If the kides won't be in it then why put the car seats in there?

[Kendyllsmommy]

The 89 is the car you see the pictures of, the 98 is the car that I am buying. The girls will be in the 98 mustang.

[Bumpy]

Then why are you on the debate board if you want support. If you want support you need to be on a support board

[Bumpy]

I will try to be supportive, but on the debate board, you can't expect that. you expect debate

[Kendyllsmommy]

Where would that be? Everyone here wanted to see the after pics, so I took them and posted them.

[QuiltyConscience]

KM, This"
Kinda, yea. She asked to sit there, but I told her DO NOT touch the keys. DO NOT try to touch any of the pedals. I figured maybe she was smart enough to figure out, hey this isn't my car, harlie might be a lil bit pissed if I mess with it. No, she's ignorant. 3 years I owned that car, and NEVER once did I wreck it like that. She will never get her lisence. Btw, the keys were in the car because me and kevin were listening to the cd in it. If you can't see it in the car, my CD player was stolen when my car was towed and I was in the hospital.
__________________


and this:
I have been in the hospital for a week and a half. My mustang is totaled. One of my friends who is only 14 tryed to drive my car while I was in the back seat buckling down kendyll's carseat. Thank god kendyll wasn't with us. (mom had her in the house at the time while I was buckling down her seat) At only 14, she had no clue how to drive a stick shift. She asked me how to start it and I told her, push in the clutch, on the far left and crank it. She did that and it was already in 1st gear. She popped the clutch, slammed her foot down on the gas thinking it was the brake and the last thing I remember was telling her "NO! The brake is in the middle". She flipped my mustang off of a ten foot embankment, onto the railroad tracks, with the top down. The next thing I reme


You are telling two different versions of your story here.

[Iconoclast]

I'm going out. I have $1 that says this will be 20 pages before I get home. I'd bet 6K, b/c I am sure I'm right, but I tend to be more responsible with my money.

[3girls2luv]

Oh boy

[Kendyllsmommy]

I'm sure it will be. Either way, there's the pics everyone wanted to see. The before pics you have seen. I lost my mustang, oh fucking well. Guess I need to be getting used to the idea before court on the 22nd. I'm ready to fight this with everything I have and get it back.

[3girls2luv]

I bet she won't come back to this post at all, especially after what QS quoted.

[Kendyllsmommy]

I'm here!!! Everything that I said did, indeed happen. Just because I told her HOW to start the car, didn't mean I told her TO start the car. I told her NOT to.

[KerryS]

I'm here!!! Everything that I said did, indeed happen. Just because I told her HOW to start the car, didn't mean I told her TO start the car. I told her NOT to.

I don't think a court of law is going to think much of that distinction.

[Kendyllsmommy]

I have a pretty good lawyer. Also, 2 witnesses.

[feroxfemina]

roffle @ this thread.

[Givebac]

Was she drinking at your mom's house? Who's going to be charged with providing a minor with alcohol?

[Kendyllsmommy]

No, she was not drinking at my mom's house.

[GirlsMama]

Just the fact that you are so hung up on a car screams more about your personality and education level than you could ever imagine. If you do indeed have a child I feel very sorry for her that you are a person in her life.

[QuiltyConscience]

No, she was not drinking at my mom's house.

where was she drinking, and why was she with you?

[KerryS]

I have a feeling that you allowing a drunk 14-year-old to sit behind the wheel of your car is not going to go well in your favor.

[Kendyllsmommy]

She was drinking at some friends house and walked to my house.

[Kendyllsmommy]

Just the fact that you are so hung up on a car screams more about your personality and education level than you could ever imagine. If you do indeed have a child I feel very sorry for her that you are a person in her life.

Just because I love my car so much does NOT mean that I don't give my baby all of my attention. I love my daughter more than you could ever imagine and she is very blessed to have me in her life. She could've very well lost me in the car accident, then where would she be?

[Hennyetta]

Just the fact that you are so hung up on a car screams more about your personality and education level than you could ever imagine. If you do indeed have a child I feel very sorry for her that you are a person in her life.

that is a pretty crappy thing to say about someone. anyone.

[jessiehannan]

Yea...I have been offered 8000 for this car before it was wrecked. It's a real all original GT mustang. The girl that was driving my car ended up with only a broken arm, needless to say we are far from being friends anymore. I got a broken neck, back, ribs, and a skull fracture. It doesn't look too bad considering...idk. Mom is really helping me with it a lot. When court is all done against this girl, her mom will have to pay for everything. My lawyer reassured us of that. She is only 14 so there is no way she should've even been in my car. Her mom lives a good 25 miles from where I do and she didn't even need to be in my area. She was over drinking with her older friends.

The bolded part has been bothering me.
If her mom dropped her off at/let her go to a frriend's/relatives/who ever'shouse, who happened to be nearby, then yes, she did need to be in your area.
Her drinking wasn't the brightest idea,and her mom may not have even been aware that she was drinking.
But it is your responsibilty to keep her, an unlicensed, uninsured driver, out from behind the wheel of your car, regardless of whether it is parked or driven.

[Givebac]

How much is this good lawyer making on your case?

[Teresa64]

:bate:Here we go again......

[KerryS]

How much is this good lawyer making on your case?

And who's paying him?

[GirlsMama]

that is a pretty crappy thing to say about someone. anyone.


If she was posting on an I Love My Car forum I would take what she says differently. But time and again it seems her biggest love in her life is her car. It's just a car. I just cannot get into the mind set of someone caring that much about an inanimate object.

I have someone in my life who cares about cars that much, so much that she puts her car feelings first before her family so I know how that can feel, that was where my remark stemmed from.

[Karrio]

Oh boy! And I thought today was going to be dull! *fist pump!*

[Monkeytoes]

I like cookies.

[jessiehannan]

I like cookies.
Me too. What kind do you have at your house? Me, I have Reese's chewy chocolate cookies.

[Bohemian]

If she was posting on an I Love My Car forum I would take what she says differently. But time and again it seems her biggest love in her life is her car. It's just a car. I just cannot get into the mind set of someone caring that much about an inanimate object.


I have nothing material in my life that I'd be devastated to lose besides pictures and keepsakes that can't be replaced but I can understand KM caring about her car. From the picture she's presented about her life, she fairly poor and doesn't have much to call her own. I know that when you don't have much, what you do have means a lot and to lose what little you have is hard. Plus she's still a kid. Kids do tend to place even more value on material things than a mature adult would.

KM, assuming your stories are true, you also have fault in the accident and I don't think you could win. True you may have not wanted the girl to start the car but you allowed her in the drivers seat and told her how it starts. You should have never allowed her in your car at all. I think you said the car was located at your mom's when this happened? She is a minor and even if she wasn't invited, you can't prove that and the legal adult will be in trouble for having a minor drinking on her property. It's not always fair but it's how it works. People sue the owners of houses when they get hurt on their property all the time, even when uninvited or the injured person is at fault.

[MommytoLuke]

One word that comes to mind everytime I see KM: Trainwreck.

Sad, but true.

[Monkeytoes]

Me too. What kind do you have at your house? Me, I have Reese's chewy chocolate cookies.

Ohh, yummy those sound good! I have some chocolate chip. I need to get more cookies. :hugegrin:

[jessiehannan]

Ohh, yummy those sound good! I have some chocolate chip. I need to get more cookies. :hugegrin:
I can't decide if I want carrot cake or spicy oatmeal raisin cookies the next time I bake. :)

[Bumpy]

I thinking of making my awesome two layer cherry cheesecake

[Hennyetta]

If she was posting on an I Love My Car forum I would take what she says differently. But time and again it seems her biggest love in her life is her car. It's just a car. I just cannot get into the mind set of someone caring that much about an inanimate object.

I have someone in my life who cares about cars that much, so much that she puts her car feelings first before her family so I know how that can feel, that was where my remark stemmed from.


but KM is not this person. Plus, she may be misguided and young and be infatuated with her car, but it doesn't mean she puts it ahead of her child.

[Babyhellfire]

I am gonna hafta make some cookies ,huh?

[MiMi_of_4]

I just ate a peanut butter white chocolate chip cookie ~ yum!

[Bumpy]

I was noticing her sig, her child is first. She just happens to love that mustang.

[Bumpy]

snickdoodles, has anyone heard of them

[jessiehannan]

I thinking of making my awesome two layer cherry cheesecake

ohh that sounds good. It is a shame I don't eat cooked fruit (except for applesauce).
Yeah, I have heard of them, and every one has a diff recipe. Are they supposed to be lemony or spicy?

[Babyhellfire]

oooo snikerdoodles.

[Bumpy]

I don't know. they are a different cookie dough then normal, and they are rolled in cinnamon and sugar

[jessiehannan]

some one I knew made what she called snickerdoodles w/ a lemon cake mix. I thought they were cinnamony though.
I want to make ranger cookies now!
Shall we start a cookie thread?

[Kendyllsmommy]

Erica wasn't drinking at our house at all. I do love my car. No, we don't have much but I was very blessed to get a car like that. I would give anything to have that day to do over. She would've never have been with me and kevin. She would've never have gotten in my car at all, but I can't. There is no way to turn back time. Mom is paying for the lawyer.

[KerryS]

One word that comes to mind everytime I see KM: Trainwreck.



Quite literally, in this specific case.

[KerryS]

It's a really big pet peeve of mine when people start talking about food in threads like this.

Why do people do this?

[Kendyllsmommy]

It's a really big pet peeve of mine when people start talking about food in threads like this.

Why do people do this?

Me too.

[newbie]

Me too.


Me too, it irritates the hell out of me. Glad to see you healing quickly, I hope everything works out.

[Teresa64]

It's a really big pet peeve of mine when people start talking about food in threads like this.

Why do people do this?


Because its a lot niceer and more polite than saying this~

blahblahblahblahblah...lol

[Sameach]

Granted, I am a decidedly un-hip, 33-year-old former teacher who drives a real all original Dodge Grand Caravan. I do think, however, that anyone who believes that an 89 Mustang that has been driven off a 10-foot embankment and put back together piece by piece will be worth more than a small sack of $20s is the drunk one. One Mustang is enough, child. Wait until the case is settled, your hotshot lawyer is paid, and use the remainder as a down payment on a decent sedan made in this millennium that will safely and reliably transport you and your children. [/end Mom rant]

[jessiehannan]

Because its a lot niceer and more polite than saying this~

blahblahblahblahblah...lol
and because when some one posts, "I like cookies" I just can't help but ask what kind. Since it went further than that, I started a new thread just for cookies. :)

[Amy_G_]

It's a really big pet peeve of mine when people start talking about food in threads like this.

Why do people do this?

It's so rude and dismissive.
it drives me up the wall.

[Amy_G_]

You are at fault for the accident if your car was in 1st gear when a young teenager sat behind the wheel to look at your car.

[HammBugga]

I agree that it is annoying but not as annoying as the word "Dismissive" so I am hereby dismissing it.

[KerryS]

You think "dismissive" is annoying? It's exactly the word that popped into my head too.

[GirlsMama]

Well, it is nice to see some people defending her.

[Bohemian]

It's a really big pet peeve of mine when people start talking about food in threads like this.

Why do people do this?

I've assumed that people do this because they think the op is a troll. Rather than give her attention, ignore her and derail the thread.

[Babyblue]

It is irresponsible and stupid to drop 6000 dollars on a car that even in pre crash condition was NOT worth that much. The retail value of a 89 mustang gt with all the options in perfect condition with 2500 miles on it is worth 3315.00. Your car did not look to be in showroom condition and most likely had far more then 2500 miles on it.

Do you have your own home?, not a trailer you share with your parents. A safe car to drive? Not a pos broken down mustang? Are you financially stable and self supporting? You are not if your mother is paying your legal fees. How are you going to be self supporting if your new fuck buddy drops you after you get pregnant?

YOU ALLOWED a drunk 14 year old behind the wheel of your car, told her exactly how to start it and hot dam you are shocked when she does? You could have just as easily been buckling one of your kids in the car, and they could have been killed.

You are a stupid irresponsible child that likes to play grown up, and I feel really bad for your kids. You are a shitty example of teen parents.

Oh yea and ttc a son, what is wrong with your two dds? Or are you and your latest fuck buddy just that sexist and stupid.

I hope this comes across as bitchy and nasty, somebody needs to tell you to grow up and get your head on straight.

[Babyhellfire]

I've assumed that people do this because they think the op is a troll. Rather than give her attention, ignore her and derail the thread.

Exactly.
km comes what, once a month with some draama and flailing attempt to "prove the drama" .
So yeah, its dismissive- "lets derail the thread talking about cookies"- because its damn hard to have much left in the way of interest and care about her stories anymore.

- and dismissive HAS become a really annoying term around here.
Oh ,how rude and dismissive of me to not cater to the troll once more.

[Sputterduck]

I hope you are healing well. Those are scary pictures.

[Monkeytoes]

snickdoodles, has anyone heard of them

Yes those are yummy!

[Babyhellfire]

I almost made snikerdoodles- but I ended up making oatmeal chocolate chunk instead.I will tell myself the nuts, flax,oatmeal and wheat flour means they are healthy lol

[Monkeytoes]

I almost made snikerdoodles- but I ended up making oatmeal chocolate chunk instead.I will tell myself the nuts, flax,oatmeal and wheat flour means they are healthy lol

Yes and drink some water with it! ;)

[Babyhellfire]

...um- but I can't dip them in water. I will have water on the SIDE of my coffee.

[Sashahomeschoolmama]

From the picture she's presented about her life, she fairly poor and doesn't have much to call her own. I know that when you don't have much, what you do have means a lot and to lose what little you have is hard. Plus she's still a kid. Kids do tend to place even more value on material things than a mature adult would.

I agree with this.

I think the entire situation is just sad. If it's true it's sad. If it isn't it's sad. It's just sad.

[Amberry]

I agree with this.

I think the entire situation is just sad. If it's true it's sad. If it isn't it's sad. It's just sad.

I knew if I read long enough I would find an opportunity to just say.

ITA

[Amy_G_]

It seems that if you don't want to feed what you think of as a troll, you should ignore the thread completely. bumping it to the top with discussions of cookies, means more people read the thread, more people reply to the thread and it keeps going on and on.

[Babyhellfire]

It will go on and on regardless-as other people come online and see it, as she comes and bumps it...
if it must, I would rather be talking about cookies.

[Bohemian]

Egads, I'm always leaving out a word or two in my posts. I hear it right in my brain but my fingers go too fast sometimes. Does that happen to anyone else?

[jessiehannan]

Egads, I'm always leaving out a word or two in my posts. I hear it right in my brain but my fingers go too fast sometimes. Does that happen to anyone else?
It happens all the time to me too.

[oldtimer]

Kendllysmommy...

You need to keep your legs closed. You have no damn business attempting to get pregnant again. You have 1 child that you are unable to care for already. Go to the nearest Planned Parenthood and get on the freaken pill.
Do everyone a favor, go to school, get a decent education and grow the hell up.

[newmominct]

Kendllysmommy...

You need to keep your legs closed. You have no damn business attempting to get pregnant again. You have 1 child that you are unable to care for already. Go to the nearest Planned Parenthood and get on the freaken pill.
Do everyone a favor, go to school, get a decent education and grow the hell up.


I've refrained from posting anything about KM so far.. but... w00t!!

[MadHatter]

::sigh::

$6000 could get you a decent Honda Civic or something that's only a few years old, I would never invest $6000 into a car that is 20 years old and fell off a cliff.

I also would say, as a single mom, get an education before bringing another kid into this world.

[pawprint]

My favorite part of this thread is where she whines that she's had the car since she was 14 (three years) and 'NEVER wrecked it like this before'. ROFL. I should hope not. This is the marker of her tremendous responsibility. Most people go their whole lives without wrecking a car.

[pawprint]

I got my Camry for $7000 in NJ. (Probably more like $55000 where KM is.) It has 212,000 miles on it and never, ever quits. I baby it, because I'm cheap but I do a ton of stop adn go driving in it and it jsut does what it's supposed to do. I do about $350 worth of repairs every year, but that car will go until I run it into the ground. My mechanic, who worked for Toyota for 20 years, tells me I'm still breaking it in, lol. He has four Camry's all with 300,000 plus on them.

[jessiehannan]

I got my Camry for $7000 in NJ. (Probably more like $55000 where KM is.) It has 212,000 miles on it and never, ever quits. I baby it, because I'm cheap but I do a ton of stop adn go driving in it and it jsut does what it's supposed to do. I do about $350 worth of repairs every year, but that car will go until I run it into the ground. My mechanic, who worked for Toyota for 20 years, tells me I'm still breaking it in, lol. He has four Camry's all with 300,000 plus on them.
I like my Camry too. I bought mine for $2600, with 142,000 miles on it. I am having to fix a lot of little maintance things on it, but once I get them done, it will be a while before I have to do them again.

[Miamimama]

I have nothing to add.

[pawprint]

I like my Camry too. I bought mine for $2600, with 142,000 miles on it. I am having to fix a lot of little maintance things on it, but once I get them done, it will be a while before I have to do them again.


I love my Cam. I doubt I will ever drive anything but a Toyota for the rest of my life. But my love affair with my car is not beyond reason. If I needed 6K to fix my car and couldn't find a reasonable Toyota I'd buy something else and live with it. (FWIW KM, I've had that Toyota since you were 11.)

[bocarioja]

Kendyllsmommy,

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[Camille]

Well, this thread has made me decide that I'm buying a camry as my next car. As soon as ds is out of a car seat, and into a booster.

[Tweet]

Just the fact that you are so hung up on a car screams more about your personality and education level than you could ever imagine. If you do indeed have a child I feel very sorry for her that you are a person in her life.


That has to be one of the crueler things I've read here. Fuck you for saying such a horrid thing about that child's mother.

And now I'm going to finish reading and see if KM was able to explain what Quilty addressed.

[Tweet]

The bolded part has been bothering me.
If her mom dropped her off at/let her go to a frriend's/relatives/who ever'shouse, who happened to be nearby, then yes, she did need to be in your area.
Her drinking wasn't the brightest idea,and her mom may not have even been aware that she was drinking.
But it is your responsibilty to keep her, an unlicensed, uninsured driver, out from behind the wheel of your car, regardless of whether it is parked or driven.


Absolutely.

[Tweet]

Well, it is nice to see some people defending her.


What does that even mean? I don't see what's so dreadful about a young adult really digging their car. Nowhere does that read she cares *more* for the car than her child. In fact, that's a bizarre conclusion to come to. Then again, I've seen plenty postings from KM about her dd.

I mean, give her shit for letting a drunk 14 year old sit behind the wheel even while parked, sure. But slithering in and making shitty comments about her loving her car more than her kid and saying it's too bad she's in her child's life is just beyond twatty.

[Tweet]

Huh. I swear I remember you saying Kendyll was your only child, KM.

[MrsKitty]

shes talking about her boyfriends daughter

[Sunnie]

I've seen KM post more about her car than her Dd. It's like she adds her Dd as an afterthought.

[MadHatter]

Well, this thread has made me decide that I'm buying a camry as my next car. As soon as ds is out of a car seat, and into a booster.

Camrys are great. I had a 2000 and gave it to my brother a couple of weeks ago b/c I have a Prius now and dh has 2 cars he alternates b/t so we didn't need it (trying to sell one). It never had a single thing wrong with it the whole time I owned it.

[Camille]

I've seen KM post more about her car than her Dd. It's like she adds her Dd as an afterthought.


In light of recent events, that could be because it's not her dd, but her niece or something. Not everybody is as good of a fake mom as KB.

[Bumpy]

sorry, I just seen what you asked about the support board. Just anyone of them but the debate board is a support board. There is also a teen moms board, but it doesn't get much attention. I would probably try to figure out which one is the best one for you, unless you are looking for an argument, then just stay here.

[Wildf1ower]

YOU ALLOWED a drunk 14 year old behind the wheel of your car, told her exactly how to start it and hot dam you are shocked when she does? You could have just as easily been buckling one of your kids in the car, and they could have been killed.

Read this, OP, and realize just how true this is. You could have been putting your DD in the car when *YOU* made the choice to instruct a DRUNK 14-year-old how to start your car. Honestly, if I had a 14-year-old involved in this, I'd probably be the one suing you, not the other way around. I don't think there needs to be talk about what you're going to do with your $6000, because I don't think you're going to get it. I think whatever you get from your insurance, if you had any, is what you will have to work with. And please, wait until you can afford another child and are in a committed relationship past the 'infatuation' stage where your head is in the clouds before you "TTC a boy" - whatever that means.

[Bumpy]

"ttc a boy" =trying to concieve a boy, never once does she say that she would not want a girl. I wanted a boy too, I have a wonderful dd, and I wouldn't change that for the world. I still wanted a boy when I found out i was pregnant.

[Bumpy]

I am sorry, I just feel that if this mom needs some support, even if her life may not lead in the same at the rest of us, and I disagree with some of her opinions or choices, I hope she would get it, just as I have from the moms at bf.com. And if I berate her for those same choices and opinions(and yes I know this is a debate board) it won't help kendyll. And Kendyll is the key factor. If you can help kendylls mommy, you can help kendyll. So please help kendyll.

That being said, Kendyllsmommy, if you want support, and I have said it before, go to a different board.

[EvilAmy]

I've seen KM post more about her car than her Dd. It's like she adds her Dd as an afterthought.

And the threads you've started about your children aren't brag threads but when they are hurting and need a poor baby other than that you don't a whole lot about your kids. So if I use your logic that would mean you only care about your kids when they're hurting.
And we know better than that. If one posts a large percentage of something other than their kids (which most of us do) doesn't mean we hold other things in life in higher regard than our children.

KM is quite a bit younger than us and her maturity level reflects her age. I have no idea why everyone is banging their head over this when we know that at that age we knew it all and yet knew nothing and nobody could convince us otherwise.

[EvilAmy]

Bumpy this thread isn't a debate it's a let's beat some sense into this child's head thead which would equal a flaming in mature years.

[EvilAmy]

A couple of pet peeves.

1."Go to the other board if you want support if you don't want to get flamed" this has led to an influx of fluff on the general breastfeeding board. MAking it so you have to wade through fluff to find help.


2. The use of the word "dismissive" ended up abused when people would use it against others when you disagreed with them. You no longer "disagreed" you were accussed of being dismissive or dismissing them. Which was an emotional tactic and rather poor play in debate.

[Bumpy]

I agree about the fluff stuff, I don't think they should have to go to another board that is for breastfeeding or stuff like that, but I hate seeing someone who needs support get "flamed" just because they are in the debate board. The reason I say to go to a different board is because the way that it is set up now, she will never get the support that she needs without getting the greif. I think we need a board for non related bfing or baby stuff, that is not debate. Sad but true.

[Wildf1ower]

"ttc a boy" =trying to concieve a boy, never once does she say that she would not want a girl. I wanted a boy too, I have a wonderful dd, and I wouldn't change that for the world. I still wanted a boy when I found out i was pregnant.


I know what it is, it's just that you cannot actually "TTC a boy" You TTC period. You may hope for a boy. Maybe it's just semantics, but it bugs me when I see it.

[newbie]

I know a lot of people that ttc boys or girls ever hear of shettles?

[jessiehannan]

With DS and DD2, I got what I wanted, but would have loved them no less if I hadn't. I just got lucky. We wanted a boy to carry on DH's family name. If we wouldn't have had a boy, oh well, his brother could try.
And in my opinion, the harder you TTC a boy or a girl, the less likely you are to get what you want. Two friends wanted a girl so bad, and after five boys, they both gave up.

[Sashahomeschoolmama]

I am sorry, I just feel that if this mom needs some support, even if her life may not lead in the same at the rest of us, and I disagree with some of her opinions or choices, I hope she would get it, just as I have from the moms at bf.com. And if I berate her for those same choices and opinions(and yes I know this is a debate board) it won't help kendyll. And Kendyll is the key factor. If you can help kendylls mommy, you can help kendyll. So please help kendyll.

That being said, Kendyllsmommy, if you want support, and I have said it before, go to a different board.


To be blunt, I'm not a counselor. I don't come here to make sure that the baby mama's of bfdc get the support they need to be good to their kids.

Do I want the best for Kendyll (or any other kid)? Sure. Is it my responsibility to love on Harlie in hopes that Kendyll will live a happy, safe, and full life? Nope.

I come here for intelligent debate and snarky comraderie. Not to paint rainbows in the sky. I will say, however, that telling this kid the truth about the moronic idea of putting $6,000 in a car that looks like Tawny Kitane should be rolling around on it might be the nicest thing that could happen to Kendyll. The idea of young kids in convertibles makes me twitch.

[Wildf1ower]

I know a lot of people that ttc boys or girls ever hear of shettles?


LOL, yes, I'm not an overly smart person, but I consider myself pretty much an expert on all things TTC. :hugegrin:

[pawprint]

To be blunt, I'm not a counselor. I don't come here to make sure that the baby mama's of bfdc get the support they need to be good to their kids.

Do I want the best for Kendyll (or any other kid)? Sure. Is it my responsibility to love on Harlie in hopes that Kendyll will live a happy, safe, and full life? Nope.

I come here for intelligent debate and snarky comraderie. Not to paint rainbows in the sky. I will say, however, that telling this kid the truth about the moronic idea of putting $6,000 in a car that looks like Tawny Kitane should be rolling around on it might be the nicest thing that could happen to Kendyll. The idea of young kids in convertibles makes me twitch.


Yeah that. All that. Even Tawny Kitane.

[TuetonicWillow]

I've seen KM post more about her car than her Dd. It's like she adds her Dd as an afterthought.


I've had the same thought.

This thread is hilarious. "I never wrecked like that before in my life! Not snice I was 14!" hahaa. And the 14 yr old kid who wrecked thar car didn't know how to drive it so KM explained to her how to do it while said 14 yr old was sitting in the driver's seat key in hand. But KM had no idea the kid was going to drive it and was shocked when she took off with the car.

lol.. Nobody needa daytime TV as long as these stories are posted.

[TuetonicWillow]

I hope she wins her 6k in court and uses it for an IUD and a GED.

[Karrio]

NBL.

Translation: Not bloody likely.

[Teresa64]

NBL.

Translation: Not bloody likely.

I second.

[Suzette]

I still not clear on something. When the girl sat in the driver's seat, you were strapping a car seat in the back. Was the back door open? We're you standing outside the car leaning in? Did you then jump into the front passenger seat to try to stop the car?

[SueDid]

I've actually been trying to figure that out, too. There is no back door. I had a Camaro for 10 years. The last few years we had carseats in the back. To put them in, I had to have the front seat leaning forward (like you would if someone was getting into the backseat) to get in far enough to buckle it in. Usually one leg was still out the door, though sometimes I might be sitting on the leaned passenger seat with both feet on the rear floor. I couldn't install the carseat behind the driver's seat unless there was no one in it, nor would it be possible to be buckling in the carseat behind the passenger seat and then move into the passenger seat without getting out of the car first.

I wonder how far the car was from the embankment and if she was actually still in the back seat, when the car flipped how did she not get crushed? With the damage shown, how does the friend not get killed, too? I'm sure she didn't have a seatbelt on just playing around in the car and the roof was smashed down!

A plausible sequence of events here that have the outcome stated is escaping me.

[haleysmom]

Here's my guess. In about a month or 2 we will see an "update thread" from KM. It will say one of the following:

1- I won a $350,000,000 settlement from the girl and Kevin and I got married and bought a brand new house and matching mustangs!

2- I'm doing good, K is getting so big, etc. My neck is healed. And in her sig it will say blah blah, my boyfriend fred/greg/jack/whoever who I never knew love until I met him and how that's her new fiance. Perhaps we will see pictures and perhaps a new sharpie tattoo.

[Teresa64]

Here's my guess. In about a month or 2 we will see an "update thread" from KM. It will say one of the following:

1- I won a $350,000,000 settlement from the girl and Kevin and I got married and bought a brand new house and matching mustangs!

2- I'm doing good, K is getting so big, etc. My neck is healed. And in her sig it will say blah blah, my boyfriend fred/greg/jack/whoever who I never knew love until I met him and how that's her new fiance. Perhaps we will see pictures and perhaps a new sharpie tattoo.

"hahaha"

[pawprint]

2- I'm doing good, K is getting so big, etc. My neck is healed. And in her sig it will say blah blah, my boyfriend fred/greg/jack/whoever who I never knew love until I met him and how that's her new fiance. Perhaps we will see pictures and perhaps a new sharpie tattoo.


I'm going this one, and I am lmao!

[Aeonkat]

Uhhh....blood stains are practically black, not a pinkish hue that is supposedly on the seat. There are no blood stains in that car. Try again.

[haleysmom]

Uhhh....blood stains are practically black, not a pinkish hue that is supposedly on the seat. There are no blood stains in that car. Try again.

Good point, I totally missed that part. But I mean if she can fly out of the back seat and into the front seat to try and save the day.... she could very well bleed pink too :p

[Kendyllsmommy]

There is no back doors on my car. I doubt I will win the money but guess what? It's worth a shot when I told the girl she couldn't drive my car especially will all my lawyer is saying. Her mom has money no doubt. We can't sue her, she's 14. But her mom, yes we can. Maybe from now on out she will learn to keep her daughter at home. I had more xrays today, everything is healing well except for my back and the dr is saying that is because I am picking up kendyll a little too much. I still can't pick her up standing but I can while I am sitting. I don't come here to make up lies. I don't get a kick out of making up lies. It's cool if you think I'm fake though. I know what really happened. Everything that I have been through has only made me that much stronger. I can't say that I'm glad that this happened TO make me stronger but it has changed my life a lot. I never dreamed I would be in a car wreck like this. I thought this was only something that happened to other people or that you just see on tv. Boy, was I ever wrong. I am getting through this. It's hard but I'm making it without my nerves being too shot all to hell. In the hospital (baptist) I was on edge constantly and was put on xanax. They really help but also make me very sleepy. Anyone else here on those and if you are, does it do the same to you?

[Carolina]

Here's my guess. In about a month or 2 we will see an "update thread" from KM. It will say one of the following:

1- I won a $350,000,000 settlement from the girl and Kevin and I got married and bought a brand new house and matching mustangs!

2- I'm doing good, K is getting so big, etc. My neck is healed. And in her sig it will say blah blah, my boyfriend fred/greg/jack/whoever who I never knew love until I met him and how that's her new fiance. Perhaps we will see pictures and perhaps a new sharpie tattoo.


:gig:

[Kendyllsmommy]

Huh. I swear I remember you saying Kendyll was your only child, KM.


Kendyll is my only baby hun. Laney is my 3 year old stepdaughter. That's kevin's little girl from a past relationship. I do love and care about her like she is my own. Her mom isn't in her life very much so I try to be there as much as possible while equaling the time out for my own child too. I love them both and laney calls me mommy too. She calls kendyll sissy. I didn't try to force her to do either or even suggest it. She just figured since daddy kevin was always there for her and harlie is kevin's fiancee' (kevin told her we were getting married) that I was her mommy. I still tell her that angie is her birth mommy and that she did have her but laney thinks I'm the fun mommy.

[Kendyllsmommy]

As for the camry or other cars like that, if I could find a good 4 door car that is a 5 speed I would definetly buy it. I used to drive my grandpa's dodge intrepids, and I don't like driving an automatic. It feels as if the transmissions just don't change right. It's hard to explain. As soon as I get my scanner working again, I will put up pics of me pregnant with kendyll and you can see my face in them too.

[Teresa64]

I really hate it when people do the 2 mommy and 2 daddy thing...

[Babyhellfire]

Especially when its a fairly new relationship.

[jessiehannan]

Yes, Camrys come with manual transmissions. Don't most cars?

[Kendyllsmommy]

I really like my mustang. Like I mentioned before I have mustang fever. If you really want to know what else makes this mustang so special to me, my grandpa that you see in the picture with kendyll helped my pick it out. He took me buy it, made sure it was running right and kept it on the road for me basically. My grandpa won't be around much longer, and he is a very very important person in my life, My mom left me with him when I was 2 years old and every since I had lived with him and my grandma up until a few years back and my mom wanted me to move back with her. He is 68 years old, and my grandpa means the world to me. Me and him wanted to restore that car completely together before it was wrecked. It crushed his heart to come out and see it like that. We worked so hard to get it where it was. I had been asking for a ford mustang since I was 6 years old and at 14 I was overjoyed to get it! Besides that fact, fox body mustangs don't get the respect they deserve. My grandpa and I got to take my mustang to 3 car shows when I had it, one each summer. He was proud to show it off and say yes this is my granddaughter's car. That is the car I drove kendyll home from the hospital in. About 2 weeks after that, the throwout bearing was going bad and I didn't get to drive it for months until we got the money to get a new clutch kit and fix it. I figured that if I was going to put in a new throwout bearing I might as well just put in the new kit. I'm just trying to explain why this car means so much to me. It's not a piece of shit. Not ONCE did it ever let me down. Me and kendyll had to leave my ex husband several times in that car, just get up and go because he was very abusive to me and would get drunk and hit me. It never failed to start and get me and her the hell out of there. I will stop here for now. If there's anything else, ask.

[Kendyllsmommy]

Yes, Camrys come with manual transmissions. Don't most cars?

Wow, I was told by a couple of people that they didn't. I may very well look into buying one of those to drive for the kids.

[VegasLactivist]

Maybe from now on out she will learn to keep her daughter at home

Advice your own mother should have followed.

[jessiehannan]

You may have to special order a car w/a manual transmission, but yes you can get one.

[Kendyllsmommy]

I love the new ford fusions. I wonder if I can get a fusion with a manual tranny. They are supposedly (what I was told at the ford dealership) a ford mustang fused with a taurus. Like a 4 door mustang, which is perfect for me.

[Kendyllsmommy]

Advice your own mother should have followed.

I agree with that. My mother was never really fully in my life until I was older. I would never go back and not have kendyll though. That's my life. She keeps me waking up every morning and every breath I take is for her.

[CatSoup]

I really hate it when people do the 2 mommy and 2 daddy thing...

Excuse me? Are you saying that you hate it when a child has a loving stepmother/father & mother/stepfather? If not you should really be more clear.

[CatSoup]

Especially when its a fairly new relationship.


Especially?

[Sunnie]

Maybe from now on out she will learn to keep her daughter at home.

Your mom couldn't keep you from fucking and getting knocked up. There's only so much you can to dot make teenagers listen.

[Teresa64]

Excuse me? Are you saying that you hate it when a child has a loving stepmother/father & mother/stepfather? If not you should really be more clear.

An acual stepparent no. No problem with that.
It annoys me when couples allow their children to call bf/gf's mommy or daddy when they clearly have a biological parent. I have seen quite a few confused children. My dn included.

[Sunnie]

I love the new ford fusions. I wonder if I can get a fusion with a manual tranny. They are supposedly (what I was told at the ford dealership) a ford mustang fused with a taurus. Like a 4 door mustang, which is perfect for me.



You can get a fusion with a manual. Hell, you can get anything with a manual. Most cars in Europe are manual.

[Camille]

I've actually been trying to figure that out, too. There is no back door. I had a Camaro for 10 years. The last few years we had carseats in the back. To put them in, I had to have the front seat leaning forward (like you would if someone was getting into the backseat) to get in far enough to buckle it in. Usually one leg was still out the door, though sometimes I might be sitting on the leaned passenger seat with both feet on the rear floor. I couldn't install the carseat behind the driver's seat unless there was no one in it, nor would it be possible to be buckling in the carseat behind the passenger seat and then move into the passenger seat without getting out of the car first.

I wonder how far the car was from the embankment and if she was actually still in the back seat, when the car flipped how did she not get crushed? With the damage shown, how does the friend not get killed, too? I'm sure she didn't have a seatbelt on just playing around in the car and the roof was smashed down!

A plausible sequence of events here that have the outcome stated is escaping me.


EXCELLENT POINT!!!

The story is fake. It is a lie. That is the answer. :)

[Camille]

I still not clear on something. When the girl sat in the driver's seat, you were strapping a car seat in the back. Was the back door open? We're you standing outside the car leaning in? Did you then jump into the front passenger seat to try to stop the car?

There is no "back door" in a mustang.

[Babyhellfire]

An acual stepparent no. No problem with that.
It annoys me when couples allow their children to call bf/gf's mommy or daddy when they clearly have a biological parent. I have seen quite a few confused children. My dn included.

km's dd has had ,
what ,three "daddies" at this point?
This one has only been around a few weeks- and Its not entirely certain how much longer he WILL be around(assuming all of km's story is legit in the 1st place) .
- so yeah.
It does make me really uncomfortable when people introduce their child to their bf/gf as "their new mommy/daddy" in a new relationship -bond with the child- Then break up and the child completely loses contact with this parental figure,lovely.

[Sunnie]

I agree BHF.

And how many "mommies" has Lanie had before Harley came into the scene?

[Kendyllsmommy]

I am the first girl kevin has dated since him and angie split up 2 and 1/2 years ago. I did NOT tell laney to call me mommy nor did I tell kendyll to call kevin daddy. It just happened that way. Kendyll's biological dad is not in her life. There has been many failed attempts to get him to see her, he just doesn't care. I do get child support 300 a month. It isn't much at all but it does help a lot with diapers, which she is almost out of btw, WTG kendyll! Kevin, the guy I am engaged to buys her clothes and some of the other things she needs. This is the first 'daddy' kendyll has had since me and her biological father split up.