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Michaelrob

10-09-2008, 12:15 AM

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/321/321386/folders/246645/2353314Picture483.jpg

:hugegrin:

JudyJudyJudy

10-09-2008, 12:34 AM

Cool! How did you make it?

Michaelrob

10-09-2008, 12:42 AM

Thanks Judy. I found some iron-on printer paper that we got a long time ago at Wal Mart and designed the print in Photoshop. I got the picture from Wikipedia. The shirt itself came from Wal Mart for $2.50.

It's funny how many kids seem to know who Obama is. One of Chloe's friends was spending the night when I ironed the print on and said "Oh I love Barack Obama!"

Babyhellfire

10-09-2008, 12:42 AM

Cute

JudyJudyJudy

10-09-2008, 01:12 AM

Thanks Judy. I found some iron-on printer paper that we got a long time ago at Wal Mart and designed the print in Photoshop. I got the picture from Wikipedia. The shirt itself came from Wal Mart for $2.50.
I'll forgive you for shopping at Wal-Mart. ;) I'm guilty at times myself.

It's funny how many kids seem to know who Obama is. One of Chloe's friends was spending the night when I ironed the print on and said "Oh I love Barack Obama!"
In Tennessee?! Too bad the kids aren't the ones voting! "lol9"

Is Rachel a liberal, too? For some reason, I always thought she was a conservative.

Michaelrob

10-09-2008, 01:27 AM

Hey, Wal Mart is all we got in this little town!

Rachel is what I would describe as a very religious liberal. Her father, who is a long-time minister in the United Methodist Church, is also quite liberal.

10-09-2008, 01:34 AM

Thanks Judy. I found some iron-on printer paper that we got a long time ago at Wal Mart and designed the print in Photoshop. I got the picture from Wikipedia. The shirt itself came from Wal Mart for $2.50.

It's funny how many kids seem to know who Obama is. One of Chloe's friends was spending the night when I ironed the print on and said "Oh I love Barack Obama!"

My Chloe likes Obama, too!

Cute shirt!

JudyJudyJudy

10-09-2008, 01:42 AM

Hey, Wal Mart is all we got in this little town!
I kind of suspected that.

Rachel is what I would describe as a very religious liberal. Her father, who is a long-time minister in the United Methodist Church, is also quite liberal.
Cool. :)

Laurens_Mom

10-09-2008, 08:28 AM

Cool shirt!

pawprint

10-09-2008, 08:41 AM

One of my good friends describes herself as 'personally conservative, politically liberal'. You can tell Rachel she can steal that if she wants to. ;) That shirt (and child) are adorable. Kids do seem enthralled by Sen Obama. Not sure why. Maybe he's just way cooler than McCain?

Bohemian

10-09-2008, 01:41 PM

I like it! :)

TuetonicWillow

10-09-2008, 01:45 PM

I dislike using children as political or religious billboards.

HammBugga

10-09-2008, 01:56 PM

That shirt is great but the boy is adorable!

JudyJudyJudy

10-09-2008, 04:19 PM

I dislike using children as political or religious billboards.
How do you know that the child didn't ask for an Obama shirt? Would you feel different if he did? Jacob is older, but has asked for an Obama shirt. He asked for a Kerry dog tag type thingy during the last election (he was 5 then).

MrsKitty

10-09-2008, 06:25 PM

I don't think our elections are the bland. We are possibly having a conservative majority *shudder* I think that is a pretty big deal.

10-09-2008, 07:03 PM

I dislike using children as political or religious billboards.

I don't like it, either, but it's very possible his kid really likes Obama. My oldest enjoys watching the debates and likes both of them <shudder> lol

I could see her wanting a shirt for her favorite candidate, too, actually.

KaraJ

10-09-2008, 07:34 PM

Think the kid is adorable, but dislike the shirt, but then, I can't stand Obama.

I don't have a problem having kids wear poilitcal shirts. I had my my little brother wave a "Support our Troops in Iraq" sign when troops were first sent there. Sam was about three.

KaraJ

10-09-2008, 07:36 PM

I think it's important to start teaching our children early about our values and morals.

Justicedog

10-09-2008, 07:36 PM

I dislike using children as political or religious billboards.

I agree.

How old is op's son?

My ds says McCain rules and is annoyed that I'm voting for me.

10-09-2008, 07:39 PM

I think it's important to start teaching our children early about our values and morals.

But why have them wear such things when they're too young to understand and have their own opinions? I've just never understood the point. To me, it's one thing when it's apparent they have their very own opinion and quite another to put my own opinions on their clothing.

KaraJ

10-09-2008, 07:41 PM

But why have them wear such things when they're too young to understand and have their own opinions? I've just never understood the point. To me, it's one thing when it's apparent they have their very own opinion and quite another to put my own opinions on their clothing. I suppose it's because "we" (parents) think we know best. I'm Pro-Life. I'm going to teach my children that they should be too. They don't have to agree, but I'll try my best to show them why I think it's important. The earlier, the better.

10-09-2008, 07:57 PM

Would you have your 3 year old wear a pro life shirt , though? I just don't understand why parents want to put their own political agendas on their kids. Unless the kid requests it, what's the point, other than trying to make some kind of point to the public?

JudyJudyJudy

10-09-2008, 07:57 PM

I actually agree with Tweet and TW about not liking to use kids to display a political or religious message. However, as I said before, I don't assume that the child didn't ask to have such a shirt.

I suppose it's because "we" (parents) think we know best. I'm Pro-Life. I'm going to teach my children that they should be too. They don't have to agree, but I'll try my best to show them why I think it's important. The earlier, the better.
At what age do you start teaching your child about abortion? :confused:

10-09-2008, 07:59 PM

Right. I mean, DD1 could very well ask for an Obama shirt or even a Jesus Loves Me shirt, but only because *she*'s interested in those things and *she* likes them.

KaraJ

10-09-2008, 08:06 PM

The earlier, the better. I guess I should rewrite my meaning. I probably won't teach about abortion until the kids are MUCH older. What age, I'm not sure.
But in the mean time, as soon as they can talk, I'll wash it down big time and just focus on how wonderful babies are.
Saying that, I'm not saying that Pro-Choice people don't love babies, in case people are thinking that.

Sputterduck

10-09-2008, 08:08 PM

My son is only 4 and I would teach him about abortion if he asked. I'd keep it factual and age appropriate. I bet it would horrify him though, so I'd try to make the conversation short...

KaraJ

10-09-2008, 08:09 PM

10-09-2008, 08:18 PM

Bohemian

10-09-2008, 08:23 PM

I don't like it, either, but it's very possible his kid really likes Obama. My oldest enjoys watching the debates and likes both of them <shudder> lol

I could see her wanting a shirt for her favorite candidate, too, actually.

I agree and same here. Between the political stuff on tv and the talk amongst the adults, my 5 year old knows quite a bit about Obama and McCain. She sees my buttons and other political gear so I could totally see her wanting something of her own to "copy" mommy.

Michaelrob

10-09-2008, 11:12 PM

Cooper is 4 and he loves Obama. When I first showed him the shirt after I applied the iron-on, he said "Cool Dad, leave it on!"
Just today I made some Obama-Biden badges that you can pin on a shirt and Chloe wanted one for her backpack. So now I am waiting for a phone call from her school telling me that she must remove the badge.

Earthmama

10-09-2008, 11:39 PM

DS is 3 and we had a very short abortion talk already.

As in we were going to Arby's (I needed some caffeine) and there were people practically surrounding the store with anti-abortion posters, facing the 2 highways that intersect there.

DS asked what they were doing & I told him they were protesting abortion. Of course, that got a "why?" And I told him "because it's not nice."

Then I got to order my tea.
But I had no idea Arby's was offering abortions. I guess you can get anything at a drive-through now.

JudyJudyJudy

10-09-2008, 11:44 PM

DS asked what they were doing & I told him they were protesting abortion. Of course, that got a "why?" And I told him "because it's not nice."
Sometimes an incomplete answer is worse than no answer at all.

colleen0419

10-09-2008, 11:58 PM

Sometimes an incomplete answer is worse than no answer at all.

How do you suggest explaining abortion to a 3 year old?

Earthmama

10-10-2008, 12:03 AM

Actually, Judy, he didn't ask what abortion was. He asked why they were protesting it.

JudyJudyJudy

10-10-2008, 12:21 AM

How do you suggest explaining abortion to a 3 year old?
Honestly, I wouldn't even try.

Actually, Judy, he didn't ask what abortion was. He asked why they were protesting it.
Gotcha.

Earthmama

10-10-2008, 12:24 AM

If I had had my caffeine before he asked, I might have avoided the a-word and explained about our right to protest. lol

pawprint

10-10-2008, 09:57 PM

RaisingThemLeft

10-10-2008, 10:10 PM

How cute!

10-10-2008, 11:10 PM

How do you suggest explaining abortion to a 3 year old?

Personally, I am not one that thinks that very, very young children NEED to know about such things. I'll give you an example of something we have dealt with in our house..DD1 loves all things medical and pretty much knows about the business of being born, including c-sections and how those are done. She knows that babies live in the woman's uterus.

She recently asked how they got in there. I kept in very, very general ( the egg is fertilized by the sperm, etc) but I am NOT ready to explain the mechanics of how the penis delivers the sperm. I know my own kid and her imagination and she's just not ready for the info yet..so, I've told her that it's complicated and when she's a couple years older we will have a very detailed talk about it. I wanted to perserve a LITTLE innocence on the matter .

I definitely believe in being honest, but I also have no problem telling my kids that some things are too complicated to understand right now and that they have plenty of time to learn all about. They don't need that heavy load of stuff in their imaginations, Imnsvho. And I'm talking about the act of sex and abortions here. But, that's me. Some things just aren't going to be appropriate at 3 ( in our home). They can wait a few years. They don't NEED to know at that young age.

10-10-2008, 11:14 PM

Ds2 is four (nearly five) and adores Obama. He named one of his wooden train fellows Barack. He just likes him for some reason. I was initially a fan of Edwards and he never took to him that way!

With people teaching their children that women do nto have domain over their own bodies 'as early as possible', I don't have much choice but to teach my truths from the get go do I?

I have a fear that one day we'll walk by the protesters that have the very graphic images of babies being aborted. It pisses me off to think someone else could force that image on my kids .

BeachMama

10-11-2008, 11:33 AM

It's funny how many kids seem to know who Obama is. One of Chloe's friends was spending the night when I ironed the print on and said "Oh I love Barack Obama!"
So true. We haven't really discussed the presidential election around the kids and I don't think we've even said who we're voting for, but whenever my kids hear about Barack Obama they say, quite excitedly, "We like Obama. We are voting for him!"

BeachMama

10-11-2008, 11:38 AM

But why have them wear such things when they're too young to understand and have their own opinions? I've just never understood the point. To me, it's one thing when it's apparent they have their very own opinion and quite another to put my own opinions on their clothing.
I get what you are saying and I kind of agree, but really, is it any different than putting a church t-shirt on your toddler?

BeachMama

10-11-2008, 11:42 AM

The_Market

10-11-2008, 12:56 PM

My son is only 4 and I would teach him about abortion if he asked. I'd keep it factual and age appropriate. I bet it would horrify him though, so I'd try to make the conversation short...
Mac asked about abortion at 5. He read a sign "Abortion stops a beating heart." and asked what it meant. I was matter-of-fact and age appropriate and he was certainly not horrified. I repeated the conversation to enough friends that I remember it pretty clearly. I wasn't really expecting to deal with the issue just yet and wasn't exactly prepared. lol

"Well, you know how babies grow in mommies bellys?"
"Yeah, and they come out their ginas." (what do you want, his mothers a CBE)
" Right. Well, sometimes a baby begins to grow, but the lady decides she's not ready to be a mommy, or the doctor says having the baby will be too dangerous for the lady. Then she decides to have an abortion."
"But WHAT is an abortion?"
"It's where a doctor helps a lady to stop being pregnant."
"How does she does that?" (our doctor is female)
I'd been hoping he wouldn't ask that. "Sometimes the doctor may give the lady special medicine, or they may use special tools to take the baby out."
"Does it hurt?"
"Well, it usually hurts the lady. Most people don't think it usually causes the baby any pain because abortion is usually done really early, before the baby is formed like us. Remember the book with the pictures of how a baby starts off as a lump and slowly becomes a person?"
"No."
"I'll show you when we get home and we can talk more about it then, if you want. Remind me, okay?"

He did not remind me. I figured there was plenty of time to address the issue when it becomes more relevant to his little life.

10-11-2008, 06:50 PM

I get what you are saying and I kind of agree, but really, is it any different than putting a church t-shirt on your toddler?

Well, I wouldn't do that, either LOL

It's just a small pet peeve of mine..I have a friend that bought a shirt for her dd that says, "My mom is way hotter than your mom!" and it just weirds me out because they're way too young to get some of those sayings/slogans/whatever.

10-11-2008, 06:53 PM

Tweet - how old is your oldest? My oldest (8) was just asking me about such things. I too kept it simple and said that the sperm from the dad fertilizes the egg in the mom. He didn't ask for more than that, thank goodness. I would've explained it to him, ut I wasn't prepared for that!

You should've seen the look on my kids face when I told them that most babies come out of vaginas. :rofl

And they were horrified when I told them what circumcision was.

She's 6 and starting asking at 4 about stuff. Not just babies and pregnancy and birthing , but also things like how our hearts work and where does blood come from. She's REALLY into it. And she will keep on asking, too. It gets a little rough sometimes, lol!

Thankfully, none of my kids have asked what circumcision is. I'm surprised DS hasn't asked why his penis looks different from his dad's.