View Full Version : It is amazing to me
Rieckah
10-21-2008, 08:52 AM
how people in our culture suffer from lack of information. Information that should be widely known.
I was piercing a little girl's ears the other day (she was 2 mos) and her mom and I got to chatting about slings and such. In the course of conversation it came up the baby was fussy *a lot*. I asked if she arched her back, why yes she did. Did she projectile vomit? Yup, that too. Ding Ding Ding. Sounds like refulx. We went on to talk about all sorts of things that to me were very apparent but she had no idea. I sent her off with a list of books and websites and a beautifully pierced little baby girl.
It really pisses me the hell off that something that is so old hat to me, people are suffering for want of. Why don't people research more? Why don't doctors help more? Why don't people know simple shit?
nelsonwife
10-21-2008, 08:55 AM
It's just life. Help where you can. You did a great job informing her, and helping her out.
Keep up the great support!
MissionaryMomma
10-21-2008, 09:01 AM
I find your post to be insulting. Help her, yes. Put her down for not researching? That's mean. How do you know she didn't research? Perhaps she came up empty.
There are things that I know about living with Spina Bifida that I don't expect every Mother to just know.
It's good to glean off other people's experiences. I'm glad you helped her. I really am.
Joyto5
10-21-2008, 09:07 AM
IME, If someone isn't faced with a challenge or doesn't think something might be wrong, why research it? That's what's great about surrounding yourself with others of different backgrounds and knowledge so, hopefully, they will point something out that haden't crossed your mind.
That's how I learned about Asperger's Syndrome.
Sunnie
10-21-2008, 09:14 AM
Do you seriously expect your average mom to know every little thing about every little ailment that could possibly affect her kid?
Teresa64
10-21-2008, 09:17 AM
When I had my ds1 I had no idea what reflux was. We went through 3 different formulas, an upper GI and doctors just telling me to give him Tylenol Cold because that is what he had. A cold.
It wasn't until we switched to the Pediatrican that I use now that we found out what was causing his vomitting. It took 3 months of my poor little boy suffering.
I dread the day that we have to find a new dr. Our pedi is awesome. Very supportive and informative and my boys acually like him. He is very bf friendly and knowledgeable about it too.
I think it depends on how much support you have...how much you know.
MissionaryMomma
10-21-2008, 09:23 AM
Do you seriously expect your average mom to know every little thing about every little ailment that could possibly affect her kid?
ICAM!
The "simple sh**" really threw me back.
xobehs
10-21-2008, 09:32 AM
For the life of me I could not figure out what was bugging DS. The doc's figured it was reflux and we did a series of dietary, position and med work to help him. He continued to be a cranky guy.
I went to message boards and posted all about it. I posted my frustrations and his pains.
Someone suggested he had tongue tie. I took him back to the doc and he was right. i will not beat myself up that for 5 months I couldn't figure it out, or that the docs and the LC didn't notice.
Hindsight tells me it was simple shit, but it wasn't.
Conversation helps, and I am glad I continued to have one. If someone were to tell me I should have known I might shut my mouth and not have conversation and things would have continued to be rough in my home.
The_Market
10-21-2008, 12:20 PM
When I had my ds1 I had no idea what reflux was. We went through 3 different formulas, an upper GI and doctors just telling me to give him Tylenol Cold because that is what he had. A cold.
It wasn't until we switched to the Pediatrican that I use now that we found out what was causing his vomitting. It took 3 months of my poor little boy suffering.
You know, it's stuff like this that pisses me off. Mother's instincts are constantly belittled. Babies are frequently dehumanized.
They just cry, it's what they do. Meanwhile mom knows something is not right, but she's just a nervous over-protective mom. It's not cool with me, this attitude.
No, I'm not saying every doctor is like this. I'm saying that far too many of them are, for my taste. It's just not the exception around here, and it should be.
Teresa64
10-21-2008, 02:16 PM
I agree. That situation really made me feel like a bad mom for a long time.
Sputterduck
10-21-2008, 02:41 PM
You know, it's stuff like this that pisses me off. Mother's instincts are constantly belittled. Babies are frequently dehumanized.
They just cry, it's what they do. Meanwhile mom knows something is not right, but she's just a nervous over-protective mom. It's not cool with me, this attitude.
No, I'm not saying every doctor is like this. I'm saying that far too many of them are, for my taste. It's just not the exception around here, and it should be.
I could not agree more.
trylyn5
10-21-2008, 02:49 PM
You know, it's stuff like this that pisses me off. Mother's instincts are constantly belittled. Babies are frequently dehumanized.
They just cry, it's what they do. Meanwhile mom knows something is not right, but she's just a nervous over-protective mom. It's not cool with me, this attitude.
No, I'm not saying every doctor is like this. I'm saying that far too many of them are, for my taste. It's just not the exception around here, and it should be.
This and similar stuff pretty much sum up my medical history.
Tweet
10-21-2008, 02:51 PM
I find your post to be insulting. Help her, yes. Put her down for not researching? That's mean. How do you know she didn't research? Perhaps she came up empty.
There are things that I know about living with Spina Bifida that I don't expect every Mother to just know.
It's good to glean off other people's experiences. I'm glad you helped her. I really am.
Tbh, that sounded a little mean to me as well. Sometimes people are not going to think of researching and LOTS of times parents (or people in general) turn off the alarm bells going off. I just think it's better to help people when you can with things like that instead of passing judgment. I'd bet she is very grateful that you gave her info.
However, speaking of research, how is that you sanitize your piercing gun thoroughly? When I've read about it, I've found that this is a horrible way to pierce ears because the guns cannot be put in an autoclave. Or do you use a sterile ,hollow needle?
Rieckah
10-21-2008, 05:41 PM
I was not insulting her for not researching more... The research bit was more a general rant.It just absolutely floors me that if her doc had taken 5 more mins and asked a few more questions she would maybe have known...reflux is so very common to me it is just flabbergasting that the doc would not have seen projectile puking as a sign....
The small mundane things that are a little off oftentimes add up but so many people are told to just blow it off....
Tweet, the guns never actually touch anyone's skin at all. However we wipe them down with industrial strength alcohol wipes every night. The cartridges that hold the piercing earrings are sterile and come to us prepackaged that way. We sanatize our hands, then dom gloves then sanative the ears, open the cartridge packs, snap them into the guns and pierce.
I know that a needle is better than a gun, however it is a job and I need the money.
Drama
10-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Are you a pediatrician? For someone who knows it all Im surprised you would pierce an infant.
Rieckah
10-21-2008, 05:45 PM
I never said that I knew it all and no I am not a ped.
newmominct
10-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Rieckah-I wondered the same thing the other day.
A friend of mine had a friend who had a baby last week.
I had the opportunity to meet her and the baby a few days ago and asked her if she was nursing. She said yes. She told me it hurt. I told her about good latch vs bad latch. she told me the Dr. told her the baby was tongue tied.
I asked her if she was going to have it snipped...
She told me she didnt know that could be done!!
Why did the Dr. not tell her this?
*sigh*
I also wondered why the new mom didnt research this but oh well
Tweet
10-21-2008, 06:04 PM
Are you a pediatrician? For someone who knows it all Im surprised you would pierce an infant.
There are lots of places that do pierce infants' ears..Claire's does around here, but they have to be 3 months old.
R, I now understand what you are saying and agree that it seems the doctor would have asked more questions given the baby's symptoms.
Me, I'm always shocked at how many peds there are that do not know what Early Intervention is or that think it's Head Start. Soo many parents need that info. I was one.
CatSoup
10-21-2008, 07:07 PM
Babies swallowing earrings because they discover the trinkets in their own ears is pretty common from what I've seen among my fellow moms. They have the nerve to complain about having to buy new ones to put in. The risk of this happening seems like it would be more common knowledge than the symptoms of reflux.
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