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still_me
10-27-2008, 03:26 PM
This is all I can find right now, but this small line is sickening. It is only on the top of this page.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27398089/?GT1=43001

Bohemian
10-27-2008, 03:30 PM
Horrible!

I found this:
The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed by predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

This is a developing story. We will have more details as they become available.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7731877&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

still_me
10-27-2008, 03:35 PM
That is about all I could find too. This pisses me off and saddens me all at the same time.

Justicedog
10-27-2008, 03:36 PM
Idiots. I'm glad the police were able to stop it.

Bohemian, you're citing a fox news program. :)

Sashahomeschoolmama
10-27-2008, 03:37 PM
That is chilling.

EvilAmy
10-27-2008, 04:06 PM
Gag. I'm glad they caught those sickheads.

QuiltyConscience
10-27-2008, 04:10 PM
Horrible!

I found this:

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7731877&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


Sickening. I do not understand the level of hate.

Bohemian
10-27-2008, 04:24 PM
Bohemian, you're citing a fox news program. :)

Hey don't try and stereotype me woman! :p I happen to be very complex with my liberal Christian views. ;)

Yeah, I think Fox news spins to the right as other channels spin to the left but that doesn't mean once in awhile they don't all report the news accurately!

JudyJudyJudy
10-27-2008, 04:57 PM
I'm glad they caught them. This type of thing makes me sick. It's so scary.

Trollarious
10-27-2008, 08:26 PM
Plot is the wrong word. To plot means to plan and scheme which requires intelligence. Instinct, like animals in the wild working together to kill for food would be a better word. "Two skinheads instincts thwarted". That's better.

Who writes these headlines and how will they ever survive without me?

still_me
10-27-2008, 08:35 PM
Plot is the wrong word. To plot means to plan and scheme which requires intelligence. Instinct, like animals in the wild working together to kill for food would be a better word. "Two skinheads instincts thwarted". That's better.

Who writes these headlines and how will they ever survive without me?


See I don't see it as instinct. It isn't a white man's instinct to kill a black man. It is hate, stupidity, and evil that fuels it, not some natural instinct. Maybe it should have read:

"Two skinheads hateful scheme thwarted"

Trollarious
10-27-2008, 08:42 PM
You're absolutely right. Skinheads are humans too. That reminds me of an old Milton Berle joke. He used to say, "yes, I believe in human rights. You are human, right?"

Bellaelle
10-27-2008, 10:36 PM
I don't even want to think about the horrible tragedy that could have happened if these lunatics had not been caught.

Tiffers
10-28-2008, 07:20 AM
How scary. I have always worried about this, ever since I found out Hilary and Obama were running for president.

It's great they were able to catch the guys before they could carry out their plans, but unfortunately, it's quite possible they're not the only ones.

The_Market
10-28-2008, 01:25 PM
I wonder if this will effect votes at all? I know a couple people who have said, from the beginning, that they hesitate to vote for Obama b/c they're sure he'll be assassinated before he's inaugurated.

Incidentally, this was two guys? I mean, those are some grand plans for two people, aren't they?

ETA: OKay, I know that if the President and VP are killed that the speaker becomes Pres, but if the Pres is killed and the VP becomes President, does the Speaker become VP?

Justicedog
10-28-2008, 01:44 PM
I wonder if this will effect votes at all? I know a couple people who have said, from the beginning, that they hesitate to vote for Obama b/c they're sure he'll be assassinated before he's inaugurated.

Incidentally, this was two guys? I mean, those are some grand plans for two people, aren't they?

ETA: OKay, I know that if the President and VP are killed that the speaker becomes Pres, but if the Pres is killed and the VP becomes President, does the Speaker become VP?


IIRC - If the Pres is killed, the VP becomes President and picks his own VP. What happened with JFK?

still_me
10-28-2008, 02:16 PM
The vice president takes the same oath of office as members of Congress. The 25th amendment was precipitated by the very case our reader asks about: When Lyndon B. Johnson became president after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the position of vice president remained vacant for the remainder of his term. Had Johnson left office during that time, House Speaker John W. McCormack of Massachusetts would have been next in line to take his place as president. After Johnson won the 1964 election, his running mate, Hubert H. Humphrey, became vice president. A few years later, in Feb. 1967, the 25th amendment was ratified.

This amendment has been invoked twice. In 1973, Vice President Spiro Agnew stepped down and was convicted of corruption charges after pleading "no contest." President Richard Nixon then appointed House Republican Leader Gerald Ford as vice president. When Nixon resigned and Ford became president, Ford named former New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller as his vice president.

And more from this link:http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/if_a_vice_president_assumes_the_presidency.html

The_Market
10-28-2008, 09:14 PM
Thanks! I would seriously not mind Biden as President, but geepers Palin as Pres is a scary idea to me.

still_me
10-29-2008, 07:23 AM
Thanks! I would seriously not mind Biden as President, but geepers Palin as Pres is a scary idea to me.


Reason number two that yanked me off the line and into the Democrat camp. :) Reason number one was that I rather have a President listen to us and at least try to accomplish what the majority wants instead of playing with the US like it is a board game....or like it is Risk...

JennMomof3
10-31-2008, 12:55 PM
horrible thing, but sadly i serioulsy doubt it will be the last time we hear about someone or some group wanting to kill obama.

zanie
10-31-2008, 01:07 PM
No disrespect guys (girls) but do you believe everything you hear? Just a short few days ago, everyone was up in arms over the woman who was attacked by "the black man". These stories are spun and most often, based on half truths, just to get the people divided yet again.

I'm not saying it isn't true, but two kids could have been joking in the locker room and this would have made headline news.

still_me
10-31-2008, 02:10 PM
No disrespect guys (girls) but do you believe everything you hear? Just a short few days ago, everyone was up in arms over the woman who was attacked by "the black man". These stories are spun and most often, based on half truths, just to get the people divided yet again.

I'm not saying it isn't true, but two kids could have been joking in the locker room and this would have made headline news.

It did make headline news.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/sheriff-concerned-parent-helped-disrupt-assassination-plot/


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/27/atf-disrupts-skinhead-plot-to-assassinate-obama-1/

Firemom
11-01-2008, 05:29 PM
I beleive it. The city of chicago is taking it seriously too. I have been on cal all week since october 30th. My days off, I must have all my fire gear at home and be prepared to go where they tell me in case of riots etc. Especially on election day, when Obama and 1000 will be in Grant Park in downtown Chicago.

The police dept also.

Justicedog
11-01-2008, 08:02 PM
Riots if Obama wins or if he loses? How fun.

JudyJudyJudy
11-01-2008, 08:37 PM
Riots if Obama wins or if he loses? How fun.
Whether he wins or loses?

Earthmama
11-01-2008, 09:27 PM
I've heard people express fears of riots in the black population if he loses, and now we have skinheads threatening/plotting violence as his success increases.

Whether he wins or loses, I hope his role in increasing the black population's involvement in politics will help to empower the black population and phase out the "angry black man" attitude that seems to stem from the lack of empowerment that slavery and black poverty has started in this country.

Maybe once they feel like they're being heard, too, they will feel less frustration and anger.

(That's a politically heavy statement for me. I hope I worded it right. I guess I should mention that I do not see the "angry black man" attitude in all black men - or women, for that matter.)