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JudyJudyJudy
10-27-2008, 05:31 PM
This pisses me off on so many levels. In many states, a convicted felon can't even vote, yet a convicted felon can be a congressman?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27398089/?GT1=43001

Sen. Stevens found guilty on corruption charges

Jurors decide Alaska lawmaker lied about home renovations, other gifts

updated 9 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Sen. Ted Stevens was convicted of corruption charges Monday in a trial that threatened to end the 40-year career of Alaska's political patriarch.

Stevens, 84, was found guilty of all seven felony charges he faced of lying about free home renovations and other gifts he received from a wealthy oil contractor. Jurors began deliberating last week.

Visibly shaken after the verdicts were read, Stevens tried to intertwine his fingers but quickly put his hands down to his side after noticing they were trembling. As he left the courtroom, Stevens got a quick kiss on the cheek from his wife, Catherine, who testified on his behalf during the trial. He declined to talk to reporters waiting outside.

Stevens faces up to five years in prison on each count when he is sentenced, but under federal guidelines he is likely to receive much less prison time, if any. The judge originally scheduled sentencing for Jan. 26 but then changed his mind and did not immediately set a date.

The jurors left the court without comment.

Said U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan: "The jurors have unanimously told me that no one has any desire to speak to any member of the media. They have asked to go home and they are en route home."

The jurors had been shuttled to and from the proceedings each day by court officials.

Palin: 'Sad day'
The verdict, coming barely a week before Election Day, increased Stevens' difficulty in winning what already was a difficult race against Democratic challenger Mark Begich. Democrats hope to seize the once reliably Republican seat as part of their bid for a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

"It's a sad day for Alaska, and a sad day for Senator Stevens and his family," Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, said in Richmond, Va., where she was campaigning.

"The verdict shines a light though on the corrupting influence of the big oil service company up there in Alaska that was allowed to control too much of our state. And that control was part of the culture of corruption that I was elected to fight."

She added: "As governor of the state of Alaska, I'll carefully monitor now the situation and I'll take any appropriate action as needed. In the meantime I do ask that the people of Alaska join me in respecting the workings of our judicial system, and I'm confident that Senator Stevens, from this point on, will do the right thing for the state of Alaska."

She ignored a question on whether she would vote for Stevens next week as she climbed the stairs to catch a plane to Roanoke.

Career in jeopardy
The monthlong trial revealed that employees for oil services company VECO Corp. transformed the senator's modest mountain cabin into a modern, two-story home with wraparound porches, a sauna and a wine cellar.

The Senate's longest-serving Republican, Stevens said he had no idea he was getting freebies. He said he paid $160,000 for the project and believed that covered everything.

Stevens had asked for an unusually speedy trial, hoping he'd be exonerated in time to return to Alaska and win re-election. He kept his campaign going and gave no indication that he had a contingency plan in case of conviction.

Despite being a convicted felon, he is not required to drop out of the race or resign from the Senate. If he wins re-election, he can continue to hold his seat because there is no rule barring felons from serving in Congress. The Senate could vote to expel Stevens on a two-thirds vote.

"Put this down: That will never happen — ever, OK?" Stevens said in the weeks leading up to his trial. "I am not stepping down. I'm going to run through and I'm going to win this election.

Democrats have invested heavily in the race, running television advertisements starring fictional FBI agents and featuring excerpts from wiretaps.

Old friend's testimony crucial
Stevens' conviction hinged on the testimony of Bill Allen, the senator's longtime drinking and fishing buddy. Allen, the founder of VECO, testified that he never billed his friend for the work on the house and that Stevens knew he was getting a special deal.

Stevens spent three days on the witness stand, vehemently denying that allegation. He said his wife, Catherine, paid every bill they received.

Living in Washington, thousands of miles away, made it impossible to monitor the project every day. Stevens relied on Allen to oversee the renovations, he said, and his friend deceived him by not forwarding all the bills.

Prosecutors used a barrage of witnesses to question how Stevens could have been in the dark about VECO's work on the project. VECO employees testified to seeing Stevens at the house. One left him a company business card. Stevens sent thank you notes to others.

Stevens' conviction is the highlight of a lengthy FBI investigation into Alaska corruption, but prosecutors noted that it is not the end. Stevens' longtime Republican colleague, Rep. Don Young, remains under investigation for his ties to VECO. Stevens' son, Ben, a former Alaska lawmaker, is also under investigation.

Stevens is a legendary figure in Alaska, where he has wielded political influence since before statehood. His knack for steering billions of dollars in federal money to his home state has drawn praise from his constituents and consternation from budget hawks.

Call for resignation
There was no immediate word on Stevens' campaign plans. His spokesman, Aaron Saunders, did not immediately return a message seeking comment on whether Stevens would stay in the race.

In Alaska, the Democratic Party issued a statement calling for Stevens to resign immediately. "He knew what he was doing was wrong," the party said. "But he did it anyway and lied to Alaskans about it."

Stevens is the sixth senator convicted of criminal charges. The last previous one was Republican David Durenberger of Minnesota, who was indicted in 1993 on charges of conspiring to make fraudulent claims for Senate reimbursement of $3,825 in lodging expenses. He later pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges and was sentenced to one year of probation and a $1,000 fine.

Tweet
10-27-2008, 05:38 PM
Wow. I had NO idea a Congresman would be allowed to stay on if they were found to be a felon. That doesn't at all make sense, given that felons can't even vote!

Justicedog
10-27-2008, 05:45 PM
For the sake of argument, I'll play naive on this. Could he have thought that the special deal he was getting was because it was from his friend rather than a lobbyist?

We have a contractor friend who does work for us and we think we're getting the "friend" rate.


(Likely, I suspect he's guilty, and he should resign and a massive write in campaign should be instituted by republicans or if he resigns, his name is already on the ballet, if he wins, who picks the replacement?) Or, if he is elected and then resigns does the governor get to select the replacement?

Justicedog
10-27-2008, 05:46 PM
Wow. I had NO idea a Congresman would be allowed to stay on if they were found to be a felon. That doesn't at all make sense, given that felons can't even vote!


They could then be voted out of Congress by a 2/3 vote.

pawprint
10-27-2008, 07:20 PM
I am trying to think of a particular felony, maybe committed 20 years ago that I would let slide and vote for the guy anyway. I can't come up with one. But I bet there is one.

JudyJudyJudy
10-27-2008, 07:45 PM
I am trying to think of a particular felony, maybe committed 20 years ago that I would let slide and vote for the guy anyway. I can't come up with one. But I bet there is one.
But, likewise, there are plenty of convicted felons who I feel should be able to vote as well. It just doesn't seem consistent.

hidesome
10-27-2008, 08:22 PM
New Mexico had an Indian Tribal Governor who was elected while he was in jail.