S/O Who would Jesus vote for? [Archive]

The_Market

10-28-2008, 08:47 AM

Well, I think about the key issues.

Would he be for "spreading the wealth" or "giving to Caesar what is Caesar's"?

Would he be a pacifist and against the war or for liberating the oppressed and thinking it was worth it, in the end?

What would he say about Capitolism in the first place, really? I have to wonder if Jesus would not have been more a fan of Socialism, really.

Separation of Church and State? Yes or No?

Gay marriage?

Sashahomeschoolmama

10-28-2008, 08:57 AM

He'd write in God probably. lol

I know you're being tic, but I think that if Jesus wanted G-d to rule over mankind He could have done it without using a write-in vote.

I don't think Jesus would vote in this presidential election. He was a radical and a revolutionist. I do think that Jesus would be impressed by Obama's community service record but I don't think that Jesus would vote.

vulturemom

10-28-2008, 09:10 AM

I think he would run his self rather then voting for one of those two.

The_Market

10-28-2008, 09:23 AM

Come to think of it, he probably wouldn't be a citizen.

xobehs

10-28-2008, 09:25 AM

Nader

KaraJ

10-28-2008, 09:40 AM

I think he would run his self rather then voting for one of those two. Probably. :)

MissionaryMomma

10-28-2008, 09:41 AM

Sputterduck, you're funny!

S_M, I agree.

All joking aside, when Jesus comes back, He will reign.

In this discussion, I don't know. Jesus was all give and no take. He spent a great deal of time with the poor. He had compassion like no other. He loved children. He helped those with disabilities. He didn't mind to pull the ox out of the ditch on the Sabbath, which was perceived as being a law-breaker. He loved everyone and was not partial.

Sashahomeschoolmama

10-28-2008, 09:49 AM

I don't think that Jesus was all give. He had some pretty strict ideas of how people should live. He loathed the Pharisees and issued some pretty dire warnings--there will be plenty who stand before him on judgement day who will hear him say, "I never knew you."

That's neither here nor there.

But I don't think Jesus would have ran for office either. Nader does seem like the most likely choice, lol.

CatSoup

10-28-2008, 09:50 AM

10-28-2008, 10:06 AM

lol. When I first read this last night, I also thought to myself that he'd probably rather have Nader than Obama or McCain.

The_Market

10-28-2008, 10:47 AM

When I read the title of this thread I thought it was pretty silly, but the more I thought about it the more interesting the question seemed. MM has some good points. I know which candidate claims to be the more socially caring, but honestly all politicians disgust me pretty evenly these days.
I posted it b/c I also thought it an interesting ponder.

Like, what if his first coming were now and not just over 2000 years ago?

I wonder about Buddha, too.

I like to take positive role models from the past and use them to help guide my moral compass. I find this esp helpful since I do not have a set of religious doctrine from which to pull.

Fortunately what religious "doctrine" I do have affords me the ability to look to both Jesus and Buddha. I say fortunately because I like to ponder random things like this; finding I often do gain a clarity of priority.

MissionaryMomma

10-28-2008, 10:56 AM

Sometimes I wonder what America's founding fathers would think today.

CatSoup

10-28-2008, 11:11 AM

I posted it b/c I also thought it an interesting ponder.

Like, what if his first coming were now and not just over 2000 years ago?

I wonder about Buddha, too.

I like to take positive role models from the past and use them to help guide my moral compass. I find this esp helpful since I do not have a set of religious doctrine from which to pull.

Fortunately what religious "doctrine" I do have affords me the ability to look to both Jesus and Buddha. I say fortunately because I like to ponder random things like this; finding I often do gain a clarity of priority.

I'm surprised I've never thought about it before really. Some years ago I read a book about Buddhism by the Dalai Lama and found it very interesting.

The_Market

10-28-2008, 11:12 AM

Another great ponderable, MM!

AuLait

10-28-2008, 12:59 PM

I don't think Jesus would vote either. I don't think he'd be able to find a party that he could give his full and all powerful support :) He also would, IMO, straddle the conservative/liberal line on many issues.

I do think that he would not support abortion. The Bible makes no qualms about the value of children, born and unborn. However, he'd absolutely advocate for more programs and services to women in need and crisis than what is available today.

I think he'd do more to care for the poor, a great champion of human rights obviously.

SingingMom

10-28-2008, 01:12 PM

I think instead of getting involved in politics, he would demand that politicians live up to their integrity. That was his message, right? I think he'd be demanding the best of all of us.

EvilAmy

10-28-2008, 02:17 PM

I don't think Jesus would vote. Neither canidate would suite him and I believe him being the being he was, could not vote in favor of some that supports abortion and he could not vote for someone that was seen as a war monger. I'm certain his idea of all life is precious runs far deeper than ours. The man was such as man of convicition that his only choice would be to write himself in, and being a humble man I doubt he'd do that.

So yeah, he wouldn't/couldn't vote. I think of Jesus being the ultimate Independant or Centerist.

Sashahomeschoolmama

10-28-2008, 04:39 PM

Sometimes I wonder what America's founding fathers would think today.

I laugh bitterly when the ultra-conservative hold the founding fathers as their own. I view the founding fathers as the movers and shakers. I liken the ultra-conservative to the British monarchy.

I also think that the far right would be the Pharisees in Jesus' time. But I admit to having a grudge against them. I think they preach more hate than love. If I believed in Jesus it would make my heart ache to see the way they turn a message of love into one of judgment and condemnation.

steelady

10-28-2008, 06:14 PM

I laugh bitterly when the ultra-conservative hold the founding fathers as their own. I view the founding fathers as the movers and shakers. I liken the ultra-conservative to the British monarchy.

I also think that the far right would be the Pharisees in Jesus' time. But I admit to having a grudge against them. I think they preach more hate than love. If I believed in Jesus it would make my heart ache to see the way they turn a message of love into one of judgment and condemnation.

I disagree. The founding fathers were split in and of themselves. We had the more liberal Jefferson (who would never get elected to day), the more conservative Adams, etc. I think Hamiliton would be pissed off at what had become of his ideas and Jefferson would be slightly embarressed by what has become of "democrats" (i.e. how conservative they've become). I think Washington would be quite saddened by it all. He did one of the most amazing things in the world-gave up power for the betterment of all. None of our current politicians can say the same thing. It's all about increasing one's power no matter what.

For the most part, however, the founding fathers were more idealistic. There was no history to look upon, no one else doing what they were attempting to do.

JudyJudyJudy

10-28-2008, 06:21 PM

Sometimes I wonder what America's founding fathers would think today.
I'm currently listening to lectures from a self-study course I got from the library. It's called "The Great Debate: Advocates and Opponents of the American Constitution." It's about the issues that came about when the Founding Fathers were trying to ratify the Constitution. It's quite interesting.

Sputterduck

10-28-2008, 06:44 PM

I also think that the far right would be the Pharisees in Jesus' time.

I absolutely think you are right. People on the far right do often preach more hate than love. Jesus called the Pharisees a "brood of vipers" for a reason.

Monkeytoes

10-28-2008, 06:47 PM

Paris Hilton.

Sputterduck

10-28-2008, 06:47 PM

I do think that he would not support abortion. The Bible makes no qualms about the value of children, born and unborn. However, he'd absolutely advocate for more programs and services to women in need and crisis than what is available today.

The Bible does talk about unborn children. God knows them as well as he knows any of us.

Jesus would lecture people living their own lives and not helping others, such as pregnant women in need of support.

JustMoi

10-28-2008, 07:00 PM

He can't vote, he didn't register in time.

Sputterduck

10-28-2008, 07:03 PM

He can't vote, he didn't register in time.

lol Good point. I guess he'll have to wait another 4 years.

JudyJudyJudy

10-28-2008, 07:05 PM

In some places you can register on the same day you vote. :p

JustMoi

10-28-2008, 08:05 PM

In some places you can register on the same day you vote. :p

But does he have picture ID?

Sputterduck

10-28-2008, 08:07 PM

But does he have picture ID?

I was going to say that I'm sure he doesn't and it takes awhile to get one from the DMV. But he's not a US citizen, so he can't get a picture ID, nor can he vote. I guess he'll have to stick to saving people. :p

hidesome

10-28-2008, 08:45 PM

Personally, the way this election is going, I think Jesus Christ must be voting for himself the moment Obama pulls the lever.

JudyJudyJudy

10-28-2008, 08:55 PM

Personally, the way this election is going, I think Jesus Christ must be voting for himself the moment Obama pulls the lever.
You're on such a hilarious roll today, hidesome. You're going to confuse those conservatives who are claiming that Obama doesn't even believe in Jesus.

pawprint

10-28-2008, 08:57 PM

You're on such a hilarious roll today, hidesome. You're going to confuse those conservatives who are claiming that Obama doesn't even believe in Jesus.

:snort:

hidesome

10-28-2008, 09:00 PM

You're on such a hilarious roll today, hidesome. You're going to confuse those conservatives who are claiming that Obama doesn't even believe in Jesus.

Let's just say it has been a long long time since I have seen such high levels of confidence placed upon a man with so little to show for himself. Personally, I hope he is as wonderful as 55% of this country supposes him to be. I've just not seen much evidence.

JudyJudyJudy

10-28-2008, 09:02 PM

We have "such high levels of confidence" in him because we believe that his plans will be far better for the country than those of the other candidates? Oh, silly us.

hidesome

10-28-2008, 09:07 PM

We have "such high levels of confidence" in him because we believe that his plans will be far better for the country than those of the other candidates? Oh, silly us.

If only two of you could sit down and actually agree on what those plans actually were. I predict Obama' lack of actual policies will cause a meltdown once reality checks back in. I predict that meltdown will occur within 24 months of his election. Save this thread and tell me I am wrong then. He is Jimmy Carter all over again. Big smiles don't do shit. It is a rule.

JudyJudyJudy

10-28-2008, 09:31 PM

Hidesome, what has been accomplished since Clinton left office? What would McCain do better?

TuetonicWillow

10-28-2008, 10:48 PM

I disagree. The founding fathers were split in and of themselves. We had the more liberal Jefferson (who would never get elected to day), the more conservative Adams, etc. I think Hamiliton would be pissed off at what had become of his ideas and Jefferson would be slightly embarressed by what has become of "democrats" (i.e. how conservative they've become). I think Washington would be quite saddened by it all. He did one of the most amazing things in the world-gave up power for the betterment of all. None of our current politicians can say the same thing. It's all about increasing one's power no matter what.

For the most part, however, the founding fathers were more idealistic. There was no history to look upon, no one else doing what they were attempting to do.

ITA with every point.

hidesome

10-29-2008, 06:18 AM

Hidesome, what has been accomplished since Clinton left office? What would McCain do better?

Next to nothing. No. That doesn't mean I believe Obama is the 2nd coming. I think both he and McCain are nice men that would make poor Presidents. I favor McCain because he would be a lame duck with a Democratic Congress.

MissionaryMomma

11-06-2008, 03:47 AM

This thread is so old, but I'm catching up just a bit...

I agree with Sasha in that the extreme right are the *Pharisees* of today. I was/am one. I fight it, but there is so much crap in me from my upbringing. I'm detoxing, though. LOL! Now, I'd be shunned if some of my former aquaintances knew what I think now.

I also agree with Steel's post about the founding fathers.

joshsmom

11-06-2008, 06:19 AM

I don't think Jesus would vote either.

I agree. Jesus wasn't here on earth to make this earth his home. He was here to prepare God's people for their kingdom in Heaven. He had no home here. He traveled about with a band of ruffians crashing with friends. He had little good to say about the governors of that time, when he said anything at all. He'd likely not be in his home town on election day and if he did vote the gov't would probably have lost or delayed his absentee ballot.