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still_me
12-11-2008, 12:41 PM
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/18254630/detail.html

Child's Body Found Near Anthony Home
Casey Anthony Reported Daughter Missing In July

POSTED: 11:52 am EST December 11, 2008
UPDATED: 12:03 pm EST December 11, 2008


The skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday in woods less than a half-mile from the Orlando home of a missing 3-year-old girl, but officials could not immediately say whether they belonged to the toddler.

A utility worker found the body in the outlying middle-class suburb about 9:30 a.m., Orange County Sheriff's spokesman Jim Solomons said. There was nothing that immediately indicated that the remains were the body of Caylee Anthony, he said.

Caylee's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, insists that she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but did not report her missing until July. Anthony has been charged with first-degree murder in connection with her daughter's death.

Since then, Anthony's family, police and volunteers from around the country have searched for the little girl.

The child's grandmother first called authorities in July to say she hadn't seen Caylee for a month and her daughter's car smelled like death. Earlier Thursday, a judge had delayed the mother's trial from January to March.

Earlier this month, the Orange County State Attorney turned over almost 800 pages of documents, which showed someone at the Anthony home had done Internet searches for terms like "neck breaking" and "household weapons."

In mid-March, someone used the Anthonys' home laptop to search Google and Wikipedia for peroxide, shovels, acetone, alcohol and chloroform. Traces of chloroform, which is used to induce unconsciousness and also a component of human decomposition, were found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car during forensic testing, the documents say.

Orange County jail officials also released several hours of videotapes of visits between Casey Anthony and her family from July and August, when she was arrested on neglect and other counts but before she was charged with first-degree murder.

During the taped visits, Anthony's parents tell her they're trying hard to find the little girl. Anthony does not appear to add information to aid that search beyond her account that a baby sitter took the girl.

Last week, prosecutors announced they would not pursue the death penalty for Anthony.

The Orange County State Attorney's Office said in a news release last week that "it is not in the best interest of the people of the state of Florida" to pursue the death penalty against Anthony.

Messages left with Caylee Anthony's grandparents and with Todd Black, the spokesman for Casey Anthony's lawyer, were not immediately returned.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redist

Sashahomeschoolmama
12-11-2008, 12:59 PM
I saw that. Man, I've followed that case nightly since it broke. I feel terribly sad for that poor child.

Babyblue
12-11-2008, 01:00 PM
so much in me hopes that she is alive and well somewhere, but this just might be it.

WalkingTittyBar
12-11-2008, 01:08 PM
So sad. Ive been following this case too. I just cant believe that if the mother had nothing to do with Caylees' disappearance that she would wait so long to report it. Unbelievable.

Michele
12-11-2008, 01:48 PM
I feel for the Grandmother who reported this. She had to know, in her gut, that her daughter did something to her granddaughter to call the cops on her. When this story broke I remember thinking that the mother was guilty because I know that I couldn't imagine not worrying about where my kid was for a minute let alone a month.

Poor little baby. If the above article is correct, it would appear that the mother plotted the child's demise for some time. You have to be a really sick individual to plot your child's death as you continue to tuck them in each night just waiting for the day you do away with them. The thought of this just makes my stomach turn.

HammBugga
12-11-2008, 02:27 PM
:( I hope that with her body they are able to build a solid case against that psycho bitch.

Wildflower
12-11-2008, 04:09 PM
:( I hope that with her body they are able to build a solid case against that psycho bitch.


I hope so, too! I feel so badly for especially the grandfather, George. He and the grandmother were on Larry King last night and he seemed on the verge of tears the entire interview. :(

KatieLou
12-11-2008, 04:09 PM
I hope that they fine proof and put that woman behind bars. That poor sweet baby girl.

Wildflower
12-11-2008, 04:13 PM
The mother is guilty as sin. I totally think she was the perp. She is already in hell, I hope she finds a small cage to carry out her sentence in.


I agree with your first two sentences. The third one, I disagree with. I've seen some of the tapes of her in jail and she's smiling at the guards, talks about reading books, that she hasn't cried since being in there, etc. One of the people on Nancy Grace's show said she would 'adjust well to prison life and be a model prisoner' - and I agree. It's NOT enough punishment if you ask me. I know it's not PC and people disagree, and for many crimes I am against the death penalty, but for this I say let her fear her own death. It's really the only thing that would approach justice for someone like her (well, leaving her in a cold cement cell with nothing but gruel and water to eat would be OK, too, but our prisons aren't anything like that.

Tweet
12-11-2008, 04:20 PM
Somehow,I don't think she'd fear her own death. I could be wrong. It just breaks my heart. That poor sweet girl.

Bohemian
12-11-2008, 04:28 PM
I hope the remains they found were Caylee. Not that I wish her dead but I'm 100% certain that she is dead and they need to find the body for sure so they can nail that bitch Casey to the wall and her poor grandparents can finally put her to rest and go on with their lives.

JudyJudyJudy
12-11-2008, 04:41 PM
so much in me hopes that she is alive and well somewhere, but this just might be it.
I have no doubt she's dead. I hope this is her body and that another child is not dead as well. Also, with the body, hopefully they can finally figure out what happened. I could never be on the jury because I couldn't be unbiased on this one.

Sashahomeschoolmama
12-11-2008, 04:46 PM
I couldn't be unbiased either. As far as I'm concerned there is no fate that's too bad for Casey Anthony. And my opinion of the grandmother, Cindy, is not much better.

Nipple_nectar
12-11-2008, 05:22 PM
I would have to agree with Sasha about the grandmom, something should have been done much sooner! WTH? This whole story is sickening.

I hope she rots in jail forever, without the possibility of parole. Unless of course someone shanks her for being a baby killer, I could live with that.

rock__
12-11-2008, 05:46 PM
I have no doubt she's dead. I hope this is her body and that another child is not dead as well. Also, with the body, hopefully they can finally figure out what happened. I could never be on the jury because I couldn't be unbiased on this one.

ITA with all of the above.

I do hope that it is all resolved soon. The thought of someone getting away with murdering any child makes me sick.

still_me
12-11-2008, 06:52 PM
I couldn't be unbiased either. As far as I'm concerned there is no fate that's too bad for Casey Anthony. And my opinion of the grandmother, Cindy, is not much better.


I agree. My mom lives by these people and has seen Casey Anthony's parents a lot. She said that she can't help but be instantly annoyed, pissed, and sad when she does.

Her mom is a nurse and her dad is a sheriff. In both lines of work, people are trained to see when someone is off or something is wrong with them. Didn't they see it in their own daughter? I can not believe that they didn't know she was unstable.

Bellaelle
12-11-2008, 09:22 PM
I am pissed the DA is not going for the death penalty against this whore. She is a sociopath and deserves the worst fate possible.

There is nothing lower or more disgusting than a mother who murders her own child in cold blood.

MiMi_of_4
12-11-2008, 10:10 PM
I am pissed the DA is not going for the death penalty against this whore. She is a sociopath and deserves the worst fate possible.

There is nothing lower or more disgusting than a mother who murders her own child in cold blood.

No shit!

Marysmom
12-12-2008, 07:51 AM
I'm uncomfortable with the bashing of the grandparents. They housed, clothed, and fed Caylee. They took care of Caylee unconditionally. Some grandparents wouldn't allow their daughter to live with them or be caregivers of their grandchild while their daughter went out partying. Casey had no reason to be a mother on the edge. She all the support in the world and still murdered Caylee.

Nothing George and Cindy Anthony did or didn't do caused this to happen. Yeah, I'll agree the Anthony's behavior has been odd. But, what would you do? You want to believe Caylee is alive, you want to believe your own daughter isn't capable of such horror.
You're living with 24/7 media in your yard and following you everywhere. You've lost all your savings trying to defend your daughter and find your granddaughter alive.

I won't criticize them.

still_me
12-12-2008, 07:58 AM
I'm sorry, but the grandmother didn't call the cops until she didn't see her granddaughter for a month. She had to have known that something was wrong. She also said the trunk smelled, but then backpedaled on that very quickly.

And if it was my granddaughter, I'd be out there from dusk till dawn everyday walking till her body was found. I wouldn't be paying a red cent for my child either. She is a murderer.

Sashahomeschoolmama
12-12-2008, 07:59 AM
We view Cindy Anthony very differently then, which is fine. I think that she's a lying, manipulative, controlling woman. I think the apple has not fallen far from the tree.

What would I do in her situation? That's a good question. I do know, without a shadow of a doubt, that I would not lie to law enforcement (who are trying to *help* her by finding her granddaughter, something that she says she was desperate to do), provide false or misleading evidence, and knowingly destroy evidence. I would not burn every bridge possible with people, like Tim Miller from Texas Equusearch, who spent their time and money searching for Caylee.

That bitch deserves to be behind bars with her daughter. If she faces dark days to come, she has *some* culpability.

I will save my sympathy for a poor little child that was thrown away in a trash bag.

ETA: I'll also add that the grandparents didn't take care of Caylee while Casey was out partying. Supposedly Caylee was with the nanny, who doesn't exist.

I'll refrain from speculating on why such an involved grandparent, who lived with the grandchild, had never met nor had any contact information for someone who supposedly was in charge of so much of that child's care. I think the skeletons in the Anthony closet extend far further than just Casey.

still_me
12-12-2008, 08:17 AM
I agree Sasha. I will never understand how a parent can turn a blind eye to their childs behaviors. I get not intruding because they are an adult, but once they cross the line into crazy land, I'd have no problem getting help for them and getting my gc the hell away from them.

It is almost if people don't want to be bothered. KWIM? They don't want to cause drama.. blah blah blah. As I stated before, the grandparents professions makes them able to see problems even more. Part of their training is to catch if someone is off. Her mother is a nurse for goodness sakes! She never worked with mentally ill people? I can not believe that all of a sudden a girl went from girl next door to drug popping, manipulative liar overnight. Throw on top of that they all lived together and...and I can call bullshit until my face is blue.

I feel bad for them that their granddaughter is dead, but that is where it ends for them.

Sashahomeschoolmama
12-12-2008, 08:19 AM
She also said the trunk smelled, but then backpedaled on that very quickly.

Backpedaled is a nice way of putting it. She lied. She's been caught in lies and various degrees of insanity ("If there was a body in Casey's car someone in the tow yard put it there after it was towed."). Not to the degree that Casey has, of course, but the grandparents are no angels.

Even this morning, on the Today Show, George Anthony was saying that he'd gone to bed on June 15 with everything being normal and happy (cue piano music). By all accounts this is a bold-faced lie, as the fight that Cindy and Casey had that night (after Cindy found out that Casey had stolen money from Cindy's parent's assisted living account) is well documented.

I'll wear a badge of heartless asshole proudly when it comes to the Anthony's (not so much George--I can somewhat believe that he is somewhat genuine). I certainly am not accusing them of directly harming their granddaughter, but I also don't think they are innocent.

They remind me of the Petersons.

pawprint
12-12-2008, 08:22 AM
I agree with you Sasha. My mother is no pillar of moral virtue and she would have turned my ass in to the police in a hot minute if she has any inkling at all that I harmed one of my children. She's drag me to the station herself- all five foot of her.

still_me
12-12-2008, 08:25 AM
I agree with you Sasha. My mother is no pillar of moral virtue and she would have turned my ass in to the police in a hot minute if she has any inkling at all that I harmed one of my children. She's drag me to the station herself- all five foot of her.


lol. My mom came straight out and said that she'd be up for attempted murder or murder, after she got a hold of one of us if we ever did that.


Sasha, I didn't know those two little tid bits you just posted. All of it is so sick. I really thought that she'd get the death penalty. This chick deserves it. Yes, she is mentality unstable, but it was obviously premeditated.

Babyblue
12-12-2008, 08:53 AM
what I find odd is that a body was found so close to the house, and the cadaver dogs never found it in searchs the first time. less then a half mile away should have been in the search area. I was in cap as a teenager and I just find it highly suspect that it was not found earlier.

what I worry is the body was hidden and then dumped after the dogs searched, or this is a different child placed there at a later time.

WalkingTittyBar
12-12-2008, 08:59 AM
what I find odd is that a body was found so close to the house, and the cadaver dogs never found it in searchs the first time. less then a half mile away should have been in the search area. I was in cap as a teenager and I just find it highly suspect that it was not found earlier.

what I worry is the body was hidden and then dumped after the dogs searched, or this is a different child placed there at a later time.


Correct me if Im wrong here, but I think that area was under about 3 feet of water when they searched before so they couldnt do much in that area.

Wildflower
12-12-2008, 09:25 AM
The question in my mind is WHY would she put her so close, just lay her on open ground like that to be quite easily found? They talk about evidence found with her - unless it's just the bag/duct tape, why would she leave other evidence (I'm talking something big and obvious - obviously she could accidentally leave trace evidence).

Seems like she would have tried harder to hide her, you know? That is the ONLY thing that makes me question this whole thing - though I'm 99.5% sure she DID do it.

And why remove her clothes? Did she plant something else with her to try to throw off the cops, to make them think she was killed by 'Zanny' or whoever? She obviously thinks everyone is a fool to believe all her lies.

The videos of her in jail talking to her parents saying things about finding Caylee - her face just looks SO much like she's lying to me. And her voice.

Sashahomeschoolmama
12-12-2008, 09:32 AM
I saw on the news where the bodies in most murders, if committed by a family member, turn up within a very small radius to the home. The perps don't venture from their stomping grounds. The body was found between the Anthony home and where Casey went to elementary school.

As to the clothing, my *guess* is that she was trying to prevent forensic evidence from being found. She'd researched on her computer, remember, for months before Caylee turned up missing. If she was throwing the body in a place that is frequently underwater--and the body has no clothes on--evidence might wash away or be compromised.

Remember, some of Caylee's clothes were found in Casey's car. Grandma Cindy, after remarking that they smelled like death, helpfully washed them several times before giving them to investigators. I'd bet money those clothes were the last things Caylee wore (besides the duct tape that was allegedly found covering the skull's mouth).

Finally, as Leonard Padilla (the colorful bounty hunter who is my favorite character in this circus) has said, this little bitch isn't someone who is going to go dig a grave. She's not going to go traipsing through the woods or marshes to dump a body. She might break a nail, after all. She didn't have the means to go far, either. She hadn't had a job in years and, though she's a well-documented thief, likely didn't have the gas or money to drive far to dump a body.

KaraJ
12-12-2008, 09:44 AM
I agree with your first two sentences. The third one, I disagree with. I've seen some of the tapes of her in jail and she's smiling at the guards, talks about reading books, that she hasn't cried since being in there, etc. One of the people on Nancy Grace's show said she would 'adjust well to prison life and be a model prisoner' - and I agree. It's NOT enough punishment if you ask me. I know it's not PC and people disagree, and for many crimes I am against the death penalty, but for this I say let her fear her own death. It's really the only thing that would approach justice for someone like her (well, leaving her in a cold cement cell with nothing but gruel and water to eat would be OK, too, but our prisons aren't anything like that. Amen to that!

pawprint
12-12-2008, 09:49 AM
I didn't say the woman doesn't DESERVE to die. I just am not in favor of goverment sanctioned killing.

pawprint
12-12-2008, 09:50 AM
Letting mothers who have lost children at her with a bat for ten minutes a piece might be fair. ;) I'm not really in favor of that but the idea has appeal.

Sashahomeschoolmama
12-12-2008, 10:14 AM
As a rule I'm against government-sanctioned murder. However, I'll admit that I'd feel a certain amount of glee if I heard that she was jacked by another inmate.

I'm also reasonably convinced that I could kill her using only a spatula and never once feel a smidgen of sadness.

pawprint
12-12-2008, 10:16 AM
I'm also reasonably convinced that I could kill her using only a spatula and never once feel a smidgen of sadness.


Amen. She's done some weird things to those of us who are generally pacifists hasn't she?

Michele
12-12-2008, 11:17 AM
I had no idea that the the grandmother was sticking up for her sick little daughter. I hadn't paid much attention to this whole story except that I heard when if first broke awhile back that the grandmother had been the one to call the cops. I thought that the g-ma didn't call the cops sooner because she thought her DD and DGD were on vacation? Prior to last night, that was my understanding of the situation. My mother goes months w/o seeing my girls and unless she specifically asks to speak to them or I offer the phone to one of the girls, she may not speak to them for weeks at a time. If one of my kids went missing and I didn't let my mother know, she would assume all was well. I gather from this thread that this is not the case at all in the Anthony situation.

Now I really am ill over this. UGH. Disgusting.

Bohemian
12-12-2008, 11:22 AM
I am pissed the DA is not going for the death penalty against this whore. She is a sociopath and deserves the worst fate possible.

There is nothing lower or more disgusting than a mother who murders her own child in cold blood.

It's only because they don't have a body. If this turns out to be Caylee that they've discovered, then it will more likely turn into a death penalty case.

That was one of the reasons that her lawyer was pushing for a trial sooner, rather than later and why they didn't want to take it out of state. They had a better chance at finding a less biased jury out of state but that would give prosecution more time to find the body.

Bohemian
12-12-2008, 11:28 AM
As a rule I'm against government-sanctioned murder. However, I'll admit that I'd feel a certain amount of glee if I heard that she was jacked by another inmate.

I'm also reasonably convinced that I could kill her using only a spatula and never once feel a smidgen of sadness.


I'm against it too but I have to say in cases like this, it makes me question my stance. I can't say I don't want her to get the death penalty. I'm really torn actually.

Iconoclast
12-12-2008, 11:30 AM
Honestly, parents have always killed thier children and always will. I don't dwell on it. What has captured my attention wrt this murder is the fact that that halfwit has, thus far, been able to out nitwit the police. Amazing. If I ever want to kill anyone, I'll do it in Florida.

Babyhellfire
12-12-2008, 11:40 AM
Honestly, parents have always killed thier children and always will. I don't dwell on it. What has captured my attention wrt this murder is the fact that that halfwit has, thus far, been able to out nitwit the police. Amazing. If I ever want to kill anyone, I'll do it in Florida.

I know. I am some what amazed by the lack- or well any real info.
It is all so odd to me.So many pieces just don't fit together or are missing completely,The grandparents- or at least grandmother just HAVE to know more then they have said.It is obvious the mom knows more but they haven't got ANYTHING out of her.

Bohemian
12-12-2008, 11:45 AM
I don't know, if Casey is a true psychopath and I believe she is, she'd be a tough nut to crack.

I don't blame the PD for not being able to get Casey to talk because I really think they tried and I don't blame them for not finding the body sooner because it was underwater and they were searching everywhere.

The only part I don't understand is why after Casey was caught lying about Zenida, where Zenida lived, her job, and all that, why it wasn't enough to get a search warrant to gather evidence.

pawprint
12-12-2008, 12:24 PM
My mom called from FL to give me this tidbit from the orlando noon news. Apparently when Casey's lawyer told her that a body had been found and where Casey had a panic attack. She really thought she would get away with it.

HammBugga
12-12-2008, 12:51 PM
Wow, she finally reacts. You would not be able to even get me to speak English if one of my kids was missing. I would be CRAZY trying to find them and out of my mind.

MiMi_of_4
12-12-2008, 01:01 PM
I'd personally see to it that my daughter never saw the light of day again if she harmed one hair on the head of any of my grandchildren and I'd happily go to jail for murder if anyone else was the perpetrator.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, would survive my wrath if they murdered one of my precious babies.

And did I said I'll kill the motherfucker outright? Just wanted to make sure you all understood how vehemently I feel about this ~ lol ~

still_me
12-12-2008, 02:41 PM
I'd personally see to it that my daughter never saw the light of day again if she harmed one hair on the head of any of my grandchildren and I'd happily go to jail for murder if anyone else was the perpetrator.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, would survive my wrath if they murdered one of my precious babies.

And did I said I'll kill the motherfucker outright? Just wanted to make sure you all understood how vehemently I feel about this ~ lol ~


You must be related to my mother. You two actually remind me of each other in some ways.


I'm glad she had a panic attack. It is the only thing during this whole case that made me happy.

pawprint
12-12-2008, 03:19 PM
You know, it doesn't make me happy. She's not sad, she's scared. No matter what happens to her it will not be as bad as what she did to Caylee.

Sputterduck
12-12-2008, 03:23 PM
I'd personally see to it that my daughter never saw the light of day again if she harmed one hair on the head of any of my grandchildren and I'd happily go to jail for murder if anyone else was the perpetrator.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, would survive my wrath if they murdered one of my precious babies.

And did I said I'll kill the motherfucker outright? Just wanted to make sure you all understood how vehemently I feel about this ~ lol ~


Me, too.

Bohemian
12-12-2008, 03:26 PM
I'm glad she's scared and she should be. She's a compulsive liar and there will be no denying the truth of what happened to Caylee once her body is identified.

nursingmotherof2
12-12-2008, 04:52 PM
http://premium.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Tweet
12-12-2008, 05:04 PM
I'd just like to know how the fuck you get to the point of killing your child. Ok, Ican wrap my mind around a psychosis of PPD, like Andrea Yates. But , this is not the case here, is it? She reminds me a lot of the serial killers I studied in a psych class once. Her demeanor, everything.

bocarioja
12-12-2008, 05:18 PM
I kills me to think that she will probably plead not guilty by reason of insanity. Fucking cunt.

pawprint
12-12-2008, 05:26 PM
And people will believe her too boca. Because it's a crazy thing to do. Evil crazy.

VegasLactivist
12-12-2008, 05:27 PM
The Find Caylee Blog. Constantly Updated. (http://premium.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html)

Tweet
12-12-2008, 05:35 PM
Sometimes , like now, I cannot muster empathy for "crazy". Sometimes I think there are some that really aren't unwell, they're evil. Idk this for sure, but this case makes me think that.

Tweet
12-12-2008, 05:35 PM
uh..where did that crazy smiley dude come from?

MiMi_of_4
12-12-2008, 05:38 PM
IDK, but I like him!

JudyJudyJudy
12-12-2008, 05:47 PM
Tweet, if you put " crazy " in quotes (without the spaces), it shows that crazy smiley.

MiMi_of_4
12-12-2008, 05:52 PM
"crazy"

MiMi_of_4
12-12-2008, 05:53 PM
You knew I'd have to try that, didn't you, Judy?

JudyJudyJudy
12-12-2008, 06:00 PM
"lol9"

Leigh-Anne
12-12-2008, 06:31 PM
I try and imagine myself in the shoes of the grandparents. I could never believe any of my children would kill their own child and so I totally understand her denial of it. If the evidence was overwhelming I would have to believe they had a mental illness. I would want my child to get the help they need. I definitely wouldn't be covering up for my child, I might not be able to talk to them but I could never stop loving them.

nursingmotherof2
12-19-2008, 01:54 PM
that stupid bitch needs to pay for what she did to her beautiful child her baby did not ask to be put on this earth now she is gone her baby did not ask to be put to sleep for ever nether! hoe can a mother do something like that to there child. i love my kids so much i can never do some thing like that to no child man i hate that even when that mother drowned all 5 of her kids in the bath tub do you remember? boy do i hate that to see a bay killed that really hurts my heart!! http://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1 if this link dont work just go to www.cnn.com :mad: :(

HammBugga
12-19-2008, 02:16 PM
uh oh.

Bohemian
12-19-2008, 02:26 PM
May that poor baby rest in peace. :(