Freaking out over Facebook!! X-posted

[Starfall]

So I use to have a account w/ facebook as of today. This morning my husband logs onto our internet and my facebook picture pops up on an advertisement, we are shocked like WTF how did this site get my Picture! I log onto facebook and read the settings/rules (which i really never did) and it clearly states they can use WHATEVER you upload on there, photos, posts, blogs, ur name (yeah the site had my picture and name!). So I go to delete my facebook and afterwards google facebook acticals and all this shit comes up about how bad it is and how facebook rewrote their rules recently where it states they own all the stuff you put on their site, omg I feel so violated, i dont what else they took (photos or my personal stuff). I'm shaking I dont where to begin to look up this shit or stop it! So anybody that has a facebook account I would delete it if I where you...

[Babyhellfire]

Why would they use your pic in an advertisement?

... I mean, I have read a lot of the forwards and stuff about releasing your pics to facebook and how they rewrote the rules. I get the uproar about it- well, sort of-
( limited to me thinking most pics posted on the internet sort of become public, and any picture you post ,pretty much anywhere you should be aware of that)

... but I don't see why facebook would use someones pic in an ad.

[PiccoloRose]

Why would they use your pic in an advertisement?

... I mean, I have read a lot of the forwards and stuff about releasing your pics to facebook and how they rewrote the rules. I get the uproar about it- well, sort of-
( limited to me thinking most pics posted on the internet sort of become public, and any picture you post ,pretty much anywhere you should be aware of that)

... but I don't see why facebook would use someones pic in an ad.


Yeah, that's how I feel. I mean, just about anywhere you upload a pic to, it kinda becomes fair game. You can even print other people's pics right off of MySpace now. Anyone who wants to can save any random pic posted just about anywhere to their PC.

As for using a pic in an ad, I don't know. I've seen a friend of mine quoted for an ad for a game, where she had written a game review.

There isn't any real privacy on the internet.

[Meredith]

I can kind of see why they would. They don't have to pay for it.

ETA: I agree with you, though, that everything you upload anywhere is fair game for someone to take and use as they see fit, but I can see why FB would stand to benefit from using their users' pictures instead of having to pay for pictures that they use for advertising purposes. That's just a guess, but it seems to make sense.

[Meredith]

If anyone's curious, here's the paragraph that states how they can use your information:

When you post User Content to the Site, you authorize and direct us to make such copies thereof as we deem necessary in order to facilitate the posting and storage of the User Content on the Site. By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing. You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the license granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content. Facebook does not assert any ownership over your User Content; rather, as between us and you, subject to the rights granted to us in these Terms, you retain full ownership of all of your User Content and any intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights associated with your User Content.From Facebook Terms of Use (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/terms.php?ref=pf)

[Meredith]

I don't really have my panties in a twist about it, but I thought others might be interested, so I looked it up.

[Starfall]

Yes I am not happy about them changing the rules.

[Starfall]

Im going to bed now...

[MrsKitty]

They changed that policy.

[still_me]

The Kitty is right. They changed back to their old policy. My question is, when they switched to the new policy (without any heads up), did they keep any of the information they obtained? I would think so. It would be a great way to retain information legally and not get in trouble for it. They could very well say 'Oh, yes we did keep it all, but really that is because we have to...it is in the program that we ended up not using' Also, there is mention of the CIA being involved with Facebook. Maybe it is from being raised by semi-hippies, but that is entirely way too Big Brother for me.

Anyways, I deleted my account...well as much as I could. I took down every.single.post. I dropped out of groups, ect. You can never delete your account there. When you "deactivate" it, a message comes saying 'sorry that you are leaving, but feel free to use your password and email address when you want to come back and everything will be the same as when you left' yea nice. It is why I deleted everything because I am not coming back.

[Elffriend]

There's a woman on one of my dieting lists that put up before and after pictures to illustrate her weight loss. Shortly thereafter she was seeing her pics all over the internet, with her head cropped off, to promote some diet plan she had never even heard of.

[Sassafras]

My pictures on facebook are all Secondlife so they can use them all they want.

[CatSoup]

pm me your facebook page so I can add you Sassy!

[QuiltyConscience]

I am not quite understanding what the big deal is, exactly.

[jessiehannan]

I am not quite understanding what the big deal is, exactly.
Me either.

[Sadalsuud]

I don't either, Quilty. If Facebook doesn't use your photos, then somebody else might. It is as easy as right-click and copy.

[rock__]

Not a big deal to me. Anything I put on the world wide web, I sort of acknowledge I'm opening it up to be used and abused as a possibility. It's hard to control something like that once you release it to the world.

I don't put anything out there that I couldn't deal with being everywhere.

[QuiltyConscience]

Good Point, Rock.

I have decided to keep facebook for IRL family and friends and separate from any message board friends. Less chance for unwanted stalkery.

[Sassafras]

pm me your facebook page so I can add you Sassy!


On face book I am Keziah Destiny.

[Crabbie]

What oyu don't want the crazy to follow you?

[Meredith]

They changed that policy.


Since this morning?

[MiMi_of_4]

Not a big deal to me. Anything I put on the world wide web, I sort of acknowledge I'm opening it up to be used and abused as a possibility. It's hard to control something like that once you release it to the world.

I don't put anything out there that I couldn't deal with being everywhere.

This is me. I can't believe some of the personal stuff people share on the internet ~ not just at FB, but even here. They may not realize that little snippets here and there can be combined to put together an entire history of a person, and that is what freaks me out.

IMO sharing things like your dad's middle name, the year your mom graduated, the person you went to prom with, etc. is unwise, because it's the kind of info people use to make passwords. For that reason, I am pretty cautious with what I share knowing it is accessible to just about everyone.

[QuiltyConscience]

What oyu don't want the crazy to follow you?

I don't want the crazy to catch me.

[BlueJenn]

It's my understanding that it's the exact same or very close to the TOS that Myspace has, but noone seems to notice it.

More or less, if it's on the internet it's free game. Better to post it somewhere that's friends-only or password protected.

[Crabbie]

:tha115:


I don't want the crazy to catch me.

I'll behave, promise!



:happy:

[still_me]

It isn't only pictures that they can take/keep. They keep any information that you have on your page. You have to go in and delete every.single.thing. Think of how many posts you have on there. A lot.

I'm all fine and good with what I put out into the internet, stays out in the internet. What I am not fine with is a company deciding that they can keep anything you do and use it for whatever purpose they see fit.

[Iconoclast]

This is me. I can't believe some of the personal stuff people share on the internet ~ not just at FB, but even here. They may not realize that little snippets here and there can be combined to put together an entire history of a person, and that is what freaks me out.

IMO sharing things like your dad's middle name, the year your mom graduated, the person you went to prom with, etc. is unwise, because it's the kind of info people use to make passwords. For that reason, I am pretty cautious with what I share knowing it is accessible to just about everyone.

ITA w/ Mimi. I am very tight lipped about details of my life/identity, but I suspect not enough. I really ought to rein it in.

I often secretly roll my eyes when people are "freaking out" about something, b/c I am laid back to a fault, and rarely freak out about anything. However, in this case, I know how the OP feels.

My cell phone has an icon on it for FB. My two college kids who are constantly on FB w/ their phones, etc thought it would be cool if they made me a FB page so we could "wall" each other, whatever the F that means. I am here to tell you, I had an absolute hissy fit, the likes of which they had never seen. Really, how dare they? I made them take it down immediately. As if I want patients and peers googling my facebook page. WTF? How unprofessional can you get?!?! It pisses me off beyond reason that my name is still in that system. 8 months later, it still gets my Irish up. I still want to ring their necks. Good thing they are hundreds of miles away or I'd start yelling at them all over again.

It also really bothers me that they put stuff on their own FB pages, but it is beyond my control at this point.

I have a love/hate relationship with the internet. I was on prodigy 18 (?) years ago when it wass brand spanking new. I miss those days, when it was still relatively safe and anonymous.

[Tweet]

I am sorry, but I am having an image of a patient a la House trying to google your FB page..in a gown with the back open. LOL

I cannot imagine writing on my doctor's wall. I mean, wtf are you going to say?

eta I'd be running if my doctor said, "Here's my FB page..wall me!"

[still_me]

It would tick me off no matter what my profession is, to have someone use my information for anything on the internet. You can go in and delete everything, ask for a name change (takes 24hrs) if you want. That would stop someone from being able to pull your name up on Facebook. I also read an article where a guy deleted everything and then constantly sent emails back and forth with someone from FB until they manually deleted his account. You could email them and say that someone set up a page without your consent and with your profession, it can not be on there.

[QuiltyConscience]

:tha115:




I'll behave, promise!



:happy:

Your kind of crazy I like.

[RaisingThemLeft]

This is me. I can't believe some of the personal stuff people share on the internet ~ not just at FB, but even here. They may not realize that little snippets here and there can be combined to put together an entire history of a person, and that is what freaks me out.

IMO sharing things like your dad's middle name, the year your mom graduated, the person you went to prom with, etc. is unwise, because it's the kind of info people use to make passwords. For that reason, I am pretty cautious with what I share knowing it is accessible to just about everyone.

But if that's not what I use to make passwords with, then it shouldn't matter if I've shared those specifics. I guess I'm confused by this because you've shared a lot of details about where your family lives, where your kids live, pictures of everyone, etc.

[RaisingThemLeft]

As if I want patients and peers googling my facebook page. WTF? How unprofessional can you get?!?! It pisses me off beyond reason that my name is still in that system. 8 months later, it still gets my Irish up. I still want to ring their necks. Good thing they are hundreds of miles away or I'd start yelling at them all over again.

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I definatly agree with you that it should be up to you to put a facebook page up (or not) and not your kids, but I don't see how it's any more unprofessional than posting on a message board. My cousin is a Dr. and has a facebook and many of her Dr. friends do too. I dont' see anything wrong with it. You don't have to add anyone you don't want to. All people see of you is a tiny picture with your name until and unless you add them as a friend.

[MiMi_of_4]

But if that's not what I use to make passwords with, then it shouldn't matter if I've shared those specifics. I guess I'm confused by this because you've shared a lot of details about where your family lives, where your kids live, pictures of everyone, etc.

RTL, those are the kinds of things that security questions ask....I regularly see people answer questions like "Who was your favorite teacher?" "What was your first car?" "What is the name of the hospital you were born in?" in the notes that bounce around. Even though you don't use those as part of your password, a hacker could use that information to figure out and access passwords.

I didn't register on Facebook or MySpace with my real name and I don't post pictures either place. My pages are only viewable by my friends and even though I'm sure there's a way to find me without my real name, I feel a little more secure not having it out there.

If someone from here wanted to find me in real life, it wouldn't be too tough to track me down, because I have shared the details you've mentioned.

But even though I've shared the cities where my kids live, I've never shared their last names or the grandkids' last names. I realize that's not a guarantee they couldn't be tracked down, but I think of it as locking my front door. If someone REALLY wanted to break in my house, I'm pretty sure they could, but a locked door has proven to be a deterrent in many cases.

I don't dwell on people stalking me or taking my identity, but I am cautious with my personal information, because I don't plan to make it easy for it to happen. On the other hand, I'm VERY protective of my grandkids' info ~ nothing more than their first names will ever appear here, on another messageboard or on FB/MySpace.

[RaisingThemLeft]

I don't use last names either, but the types of security questions that I have for things are what city I was born in (haven't shared that) and mother's maiden name (haven't shared that either). And then you also need not only those security answers but also my email address, which I haven't shared.

[RaisingThemLeft]

I do agree with you though, that if someone really wanted to track me down that bad, they probably could. I have been amazed at what people here have been able to find. Like the myspace of the "real" KB. That one floored me. I mean, how ever could someone find that? If someone could do that, I'm sure someone could find me too since I've shared what city I live in and my first name and everyone has seen pics of me.

[MiMi_of_4]

And that is precisely why I don't share a lot of personal information about others here ~ all it takes is for several posters to piece together snippets of information and pretty soon, there's enough history compiled to track someone down.

[KerryS]

I definatly agree with you that it should be up to you to put a facebook page up (or not) and not your kids, but I don't see how it's any more unprofessional than posting on a message board. My cousin is a Dr. and has a facebook and many of her Dr. friends do too. I dont' see anything wrong with it. You don't have to add anyone you don't want to. All people see of you is a tiny picture with your name until and unless you add them as a friend.

I agree with this. I think it CAN be unprofessional, depending on the type of information you have and things you write. But I don't think the very fact of having a page is unprofessional, in and of itself.

[RaisingThemLeft]

I agree with this. I think it CAN be unprofessional, depending on the type of information you have and things you write. But I don't think the very fact of having a page is unprofessional, in and of itself.

Right. And there isn't anything of questionable content on her page. There isn't on mine either. I have a bunch of pta moms added as friends so it isn't like I'd write anything explicit or inappropriate.

[DaisyDuke]

Your name and picture can show up in "Social Ads" on Facebook unless you turn the option off in your privacy settings. To do this:


Click on Settings (it should be on the blue bar at the top of whatever Facebook page you are on, just to the right of your name)
Click on Privacy Settings.
Click on News Feed and Wall.
Click on the Social Ads tab.
Change the Appearance in Social Ads setting to No One and then click on Save Changes.


While you are looking at that, it probably wouldn't hurt to check the rest of your privacy settings to make sure you are aware what information is out there.

[Meredith]

ITA w/ Mimi. I am very tight lipped about details of my life/identity, but I suspect not enough. I really ought to rein it in.

I often secretly roll my eyes when people are "freaking out" about something, b/c I am laid back to a fault, and rarely freak out about anything. However, in this case, I know how the OP feels.

My cell phone has an icon on it for FB. My two college kids who are constantly on FB w/ their phones, etc thought it would be cool if they made me a FB page so we could "wall" each other, whatever the F that means. I am here to tell you, I had an absolute hissy fit, the likes of which they had never seen. Really, how dare they? I made them take it down immediately. As if I want patients and peers googling my facebook page. WTF? How unprofessional can you get?!?! It pisses me off beyond reason that my name is still in that system. 8 months later, it still gets my Irish up. I still want to ring their necks. Good thing they are hundreds of miles away or I'd start yelling at them all over again.

It also really bothers me that they put stuff on their own FB pages, but it is beyond my control at this point.

I have a love/hate relationship with the internet. I was on prodigy 18 (?) years ago when it wass brand spanking new. I miss those days, when it was still relatively safe and anonymous.

I'd be pissed, too, if someone made me a Facebook page without telling me. I don't blame you for getting your Irish up.

[Iconoclast]

Well then, I will only say that it falls outside of my comfort zone, both personally and professionally. Different strokes and all that. Again, I'll remind you that I am much older than most of you. I didn't come of age in this tech era, and many of the accoutrements that are npw ubiquitous parts of the every day culture are, to me, quite inane, lol. Hell, I just got a cell phone +/-18 months ago. I have used 11 minutes since then, five of which were my kids downloading ringtones they thought I should have. (I confess, I do use the PDA/softrware functions routinely.)

[CatSoup]

Your name and picture can show up in "Social Ads" on Facebook unless you turn the option off in your privacy settings. To do this:


Click on Settings (it should be on the blue bar at the top of whatever Facebook page you are on, just to the right of your name)
Click on Privacy Settings.
Click on News Feed and Wall.
Click on the Social Ads tab.
Change the Appearance in Social Ads setting to No One and then click on Save Changes.


While you are looking at that, it probably wouldn't hurt to check the rest of your privacy settings to make sure you are aware what information is out there.

thanks

[MiMi_of_4]

Icon, you keep saying you are so much older ~ just how damn old ARE you? I'd bet dollars to doughnuts you're not as old as I am! :p

[pawprint]

Well then, I will only say that it falls outside of my comfort zone, both personally and professionally. Different strokes and all that. Again, I'll remind you that I am much older than most of you. I didn't come of age in this tech era, and many of the accoutrements that are npw ubiquitous parts of the every day culture are, to me, quite inane, lol. Hell, I just got a cell phone +/-18 months ago. I have used 11 minutes since then, five of which were my kids downloading ringtones they thought I should have. (I confess, I do use the PDA/softrware functions routinely.)


I am only 28 and I don't have all these inane things either, lol.

If I wanted to track down someone form high school I would have done it by now. If posters on this board want to hunt me down, please bring cookies when you get here.

[Iconoclast]

Icon, you keep saying you are so much older ~ just how damn old ARE you? I'd bet dollars to doughnuts you're not as old as I am! :p

08/20/61

If birthday gifts are going to be forthcoming, I will open a PO box. LMK. ;)

[MiMi_of_4]

I'll admit it ~ I've had a cell phone for more than 10 years (and a pager before that) and a Palm Pilot when I taught. I had ICQ and AIM accounts and chatted frequently. I'm on my 4th digital camera, and I have a digital photo frame, plus a miniature digital photo album. I'm on Facebook (a lot) and MySpace (not often) and have a Twitter account, as well.

At some point, I imagine I'll get a Blackberry Storm Touch, and someday I'd love to have a touch screen laptop.

I blame my fascination with "gadgets" on my parents who had phones in every room of our house when I was in high school (including all four bathrooms ::blush:: ). My dad was in management at GTE, so every time a prototype came out, we got one!

[MiMi_of_4]

08/20/61

If birthday gifts are going to be forthcoming, I will open a PO box. LMK. ;)

Heh ~ you're just a pup! You and my baby sis are the same age :) I shall note that prestigious day in my cell phone calendar and set an alarm, so I don't forget to send you a gift! :p

[Iconoclast]

Heh ~ you're just a pup! You and my baby sis are the same age :) I shall note that prestigious day in my cell phone calendar and set an alarm, so I don't forget to send you a gift! :p

Well then I will open a PO Box in a different state where I have connections, and have it forwarded. I am not giving any of you freaks my address. "cathug"

[MiMi_of_4]

:happy: Sounds like a plan, because I will be shipping it from another country using an assumed name...I've had nine years more than you to accrue an undercover list of "connections."

[Iconoclast]

I'll admit it ~ I've had a cell phone for more than 10 years (and a pager before that) and a Palm Pilot when I taught. I had ICQ and AIM accounts and chatted frequently. I'm on my 4th digital camera, and I have a digital photo frame, plus a miniature digital photo album. I'm on Facebook (a lot) and MySpace (not often) and have a Twitter account, as well.

At some point, I imagine I'll get a Blackberry Storm Touch, and someday I'd love to have a touch screen laptop.

!

I love my palm. I had a blackberry curve, and I have to say for runniung software, it sucked. Slow and lots of glitches. I returned it and went back to palm. I like my treo 650, but I might move up to a treo pro b/c it is smaller. As I said, I don't really use the cell phone feature, nor do I download music, both of which I am told are better on the blackberry storm. I don't always have it with me, I foprget it all the time (except work, which was it's primary purpose). My phone is almost never even turned on, no one has the number and I don't even know how to check my voice mail. It has been telling me I have two new voice mails for a year; I just haven't listened to them yet. Dh said it was him each time, trying to ask me something he eventually figured out for himself. This is exactly why I don't want a cell phone. If they can't get me, people have top figure their shit out on their own, which I prefer! If this treo didn't come with the phone function, I still wouldn't have one. I don't need to call anyone and I certainl;y do not want people calling me.

Dh is into gadgets, but he still uses a pager. He is old school. I don't take call, or I'd use one too. No way am I giving work people a cell phone number to reach me. :nono:

[Iconoclast]

:happy: Sounds like a plan, because I will be shipping it from another country using an assumed name...I've had nine years more than you to accrue an undercover list of "connections."

touche

[MiMi_of_4]

I loved my Palm, too. I was the director of our after school program while I was teaching, and between scheduling all kinds of what-not in my personal life, meetings with parents at school and the program, keeping track of conferences, field trips, speakers, etc., it was a life-saver.

My cell phone has a totally user-friendly calendar and alarm system that suffices for my life today, since all I have to schedule are subbing dates, reminders for hair appts., wake up calls, etc. :) I gave the palm to a friend who is still teaching, because she was terribly jealous I was retiring, and I felt sorry for her...lol...

[Iconoclast]

the other thing is that my dh is married to his palm, he will NEVER switch to a blackberry, and it is very conveinent to beam each other schedules and numbers, etc.

[Tweet]

Shit. You're not THAT much older,lol. Well, than me anyway. 12 years. You could have been a big sister, not a mom. I still remember the microwave being a big deal. I will admit to being extremely techie challenged. I am in love with my iPhone ,however.

[KerryS]

I can't decide what my new nickname for Iconoclast will be: Grandma or Dr. Luddite.

[Tweet]

lol

[Iconoclast]

I have had the general impression that I am 25 years older than the average poster here. A relief to know I'm not as abby-normal (a nod to a movie made before some of you were born, Young Frankenstein ;) )as I thought.

Sincerely,

Granny Luddite

[Amy_G_]

you are only 6 years older than I, my dh is 2 years older than you. but there are a lot of people here that are very very young.

[Iconoclast]

My dh is quite a bit older than I am, yet he knows how to get his voice mail. Some of my issues are just obstinence. ;)

[Sunnie]

08/20/61

If birthday gifts are going to be forthcoming, I will open a PO box. LMK. ;)

I know someone 9 yrs older than you who is quite adept with a cellphone and a laptop computer. LOL

[Sunnie]

:happy: Sounds like a plan, because I will be shipping it from another country using an assumed name...I've had nine years more than you to accrue an undercover list of "connections."


You must PM me your birthday. *raises eyebrows*

[MMof5]

I used to be far more free with info (mostly pictures, location, etc) but never gave my name---first or last. Now, I'm FAR more careful. I don't use my name, the kids' names, dh's name, city/village we live in, pictures, etc. I'm not sure you can be too careful online.