View Full Version : The #1 stupid Dr. comment of the day is....
3girls2luv
05-27-2009, 02:55 PM
Only breastfeed the baby for 5 min on each side and give him 20ml of formula, I don't want him to bf more than 10min because he will get too cold.
Um yeah cuz putting him skin to skin on mom will give him a chill and drowning him formula is muuuch safer.
Meredith
05-27-2009, 02:56 PM
What?
Maret00
05-27-2009, 02:57 PM
I HATE DOCTORS when it comes to anything that they think they know but dont.
Maret00
05-27-2009, 02:58 PM
PS where did you hear that was that told to you. I want details!
Sputterduck
05-27-2009, 02:58 PM
*speechless*
Sputterduck
05-27-2009, 03:04 PM
How old is this baby?
rock__
05-27-2009, 03:04 PM
Wow. In what universe does that make any sense?
maksmom
05-27-2009, 03:05 PM
What gets me is these idiots somehow made their way through medical school.
Peeka2
05-27-2009, 03:07 PM
Oh nice, where is this mom nursing the baby....in a freezer? LMAO
JudyJudyJudy
05-27-2009, 03:07 PM
I'm beginning to think that some people take a course in stupidity while in medical school.
When I was pregnant with Jacob, it was the middle of the summer in the South, and I stayed cold all the time, particularly my hands and feet. When I talked to one of the OBs in the practice about this, he answered, "Wear socks and gloves."
Rosawyn
05-27-2009, 03:15 PM
???? Who was told this? Is this advice being followed?? Is the baby sick, or is this just generally advice for every bf baby? How is ff going to be more "warming" to the baby??
Camille
05-27-2009, 03:26 PM
Wow. I'm appalled that they actually gave somebody so stupid an M.D.
RaisingThemLeft
05-27-2009, 03:43 PM
That doesn't even make sense. What was the logic in that?
joshsmom
05-27-2009, 03:45 PM
No way that is real.
Please.
Please tell me that isn't real.
My 4 year old knows more about breastfeeding than that!
Meredith
05-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Yeah, JM. I'm really hoping that someone misunderstood. That's so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start.
SingingMom
05-27-2009, 03:55 PM
Only breastfeed the baby for 5 min on each side and give him 20ml of formula, I don't want him to bf more than 10min because he will get too cold.
Um yeah cuz putting him skin to skin on mom will give him a chill and drowning him formula is muuuch safer.
Tell the doc that they have this new invention- baby blankets! Highly effective at keeping babies warm, blankets can be used in a number of ways. They can even be provided in sterile packages.
Jacksmommy
05-27-2009, 03:57 PM
I so wish you could educate the doctors where you work. They're advice is something out of a nightmare.
Rosawyn
05-27-2009, 03:59 PM
My 4 year old knows more about breastfeeding than that!
Mine too. Not to mention my 2 year old who is still nursing.
3girls2luv
05-27-2009, 04:17 PM
Yes I am sorry to say this was told to the NICU nurse who is taking care of this baby who was born less than 24hrs ago. I was able to get this baby to nurse very well at the breast for 20 min. so I gave her report and she said "the doctor only wants the baby to nurse ten min. 5 min on each side so he does not get too cold and then give him 20 ml of ff." The next feeding we used an SNS because the doctor said baby could not go home unless he could take between 20-30 ml at a feeding. He is a bit on the small side but he is full term and has been doing very well. Mom is pissed so she poured out 30ml of formula and put the baby to the breast and her words "the doctor can go fuck himself, I am not going to be told how to feed my baby." Another nurse witnessed this so I don't know what they will do next but this doctor is dealing with a mom who ebf 5 children. I wish him luck with this one.
As far as educating the doctors, I have formed a breastfeeding committee meeting and I have two doctors who are going to help me spread the word.
Sputterduck
05-27-2009, 04:18 PM
Good job to that mother! lol
Maret00
05-27-2009, 04:31 PM
Good for you. Docs drive me crazy. Why do I want to be a LC and work in hospitals and deal with them?
Rosawyn
05-27-2009, 04:36 PM
Oh wow. That mom is awesome. :D
3girls2luv
05-27-2009, 05:23 PM
Good for you. Docs drive me crazy. Why do I want to be a LC and work in hospitals and deal with them?
Because "united we stand!" We need more LCs in hospitals to educate one doctor at a time. :)
RaisingThemLeft
05-27-2009, 05:32 PM
Good for that mom! I hate Dr.'s like that. When I was in the hospital with my 1st, a nurse told me that if I had Dr. X, my baby wouldn't be able to be ebf because "he likes to see all of his babies gain right from the start, he starts them on formula". Thankfully, I had a bf friendly ped who basically told me that the nurse didn't know what she was talking about. That nurse had tried to get me to ff, saying that my baby was losing too much weight, but he hadn't lost that much.
Bellaelle
05-27-2009, 05:49 PM
Good for you. Docs drive me crazy. Why do I want to be a LC and work in hospitals and deal with them?
Let's hope you don't end up in a car accident or with cancer. What would you do then? Treat yourself? I can't stand people who feel the need to be hateful towards doctors.
Maret00
05-27-2009, 06:19 PM
Not all doc. just the docs who give stupid answers and my sons doc is one of them (we are looking for a diffrent one, his old doc moved and we got another doc in the same offic), I like his ENT doc. I love my docs but as I have posted my in other things is that you just cant trust all docs.
KerryS
05-27-2009, 07:12 PM
I feel so lucky that our doctors are relatively breastfeeding friendly, and they will often defer to me or the other LC when it comes to feeding issues.
Tweet
05-28-2009, 01:54 AM
That doesn't make sense to me. Skin to skin contact is great for body warmth and helping babes regulate their own body temp. When dd1 was in the NICU, we did kangaroo care quite often and tried so hard to nurse. If the kid is cold, put a blanket over! Good grief. And how is formula going to warm him up , exactly?! Wtf??
The_Market
05-28-2009, 08:07 AM
How about, "I think we should go ahead and just do your c-section now because it's 6pm and our staffing is going down. A bus full of kids coming home from a soccer game in [a neighboring city] might crash and fill up the ER and then there wouldn't be an anesthesiologist available for an emergency c-section."
Becca75
05-28-2009, 08:16 AM
I so hope that didn't actually happen, Market, but something tells me it did.
The_Market
05-28-2009, 08:22 AM
I so hope that didn't actually happen, Market, but something tells me it did.
I was standing there and saw/heard it myself. Fortunately, the mother asked him to wait a couple hours and the father laughed at the comment after the doctor left the room...although she did get a c-section after a couple more hours.
Maret00
05-28-2009, 08:30 AM
I'm telling you how did some of these guys/girls make it?
HammBugga
05-28-2009, 10:26 AM
Yay for that Mom! That sounds like something I would say "tell him to go fuck himself" rofl
Even after discussing it several times throughout my pregnancy, my OB told me, when she started my induction that I could have my epidural right then. I wasn't even in labor YET!!!!!! freak. I did end up with a med free birth (well aside from the pitocin of course). No thanks to her.
HammBugga
05-28-2009, 10:29 AM
I was standing there and saw/heard it myself. Fortunately, the mother asked him to wait a couple hours and the father laughed at the comment after the doctor left the room...although she did get a c-section after a couple more hours.
Yeah I saw The Business Of Being Born the other day. It is no surprise that the peak section time are at 4pm and 10pm. One is the Dr wants to make it home in time for dinner and the other, doesn't want to be in the hospital all night or paged while sleeping. How much of an emergency can it be to miss spaghetti night or The Late Show.
3girls2luv
05-28-2009, 11:01 AM
Oh don't even get me started on our induction rates and c-section rates due to failed inductions. Put it this way we have over 7 inductions going on right now as I type this, its a slow day though. The other day they did a scheduled c-section because a 38 week baby had not engaged in the pelvic yet and the doc said it was because he was too big and if they induced it would be a failed induction since he was too high up. Well the baby weighed 6lb 9 oz and ended up in the NICU for a colapsed lung.
still_me
05-28-2009, 11:12 AM
I thought of this thread today as I heard one women say to another mom about a friend of their's who was pregnant, " S's body just won't go into labor. She HAS to be induced." Really? Her body won't go into labor? She must be one of those freaky people who are pregnant forever. :rolleyes:
My cousin works with the only two OBGYNs in our town. They don't hide the fact at all that they want to go home and that they will do C-sections just to do so.
I won't even go into details about how my sister was treated, but I will tell you that her doctor fought her tooth and nail about not going to a larger hospital when she was having her son at 36 weeks. She made it clear that she wanted to go and he told the doctor coming on call that she didn't want to go and that he didn't want her to. Thankfully that doctor coming on ignored him and sent her up there. My premie nephew was born and in NICU for 2 weeks. My sister sat in our hospital in labor (with her water slowly leaking) for 2 days.
Tweet
05-28-2009, 03:13 PM
I thought of this thread today as I heard one women say to another mom about a friend of their's who was pregnant, " S's body just won't go into labor. She HAS to be induced." Really? Her body won't go into labor? She must be one of those freaky people who are pregnant forever. :rolleyes:
My cousin works with the only two OBGYNs in our town. They don't hide the fact at all that they want to go home and that they will do C-sections just to do so.
I won't even go into details about how my sister was treated, but I will tell you that her doctor fought her tooth and nail about not going to a larger hospital when she was having her son at 36 weeks. She made it clear that she wanted to go and he told the doctor coming on call that she didn't want to go and that he didn't want her to. Thankfully that doctor coming on ignored him and sent her up there. My premie nephew was born and in NICU for 2 weeks. My sister sat in our hospital in labor (with her water slowly leaking) for 2 days.
Why did her doc not want to go? That seems weird. I don't see why anyone would have an issue.
There were quite a few of us with leaks on the OB floor when I was in the hospital with dd1. I had had a very slow leak for almost a week and a half (and my OB did a litmus test which was positive but was negative on the slide..it didn't have a ferning pattern..i think he didn't know what he was doing) . I was then sent to a peri at 31 weeks and the peri did put me in the hospital for a week but monitored very closely for signs of infection. It was to buy more time. Perhaps that was the reason your sister was in for 2 days while leaking.
JudyJudyJudy
05-28-2009, 03:46 PM
Why did her doc not want to go?
Probably $$$$.
still_me
05-28-2009, 09:08 PM
Probably $$$$.
Ding Ding Ding. A nurse came straight out and told my sister that is why. All of the nurses kept encouraging her (as much as they could) to go to a much better hospital. If my sister had the baby at our local hospital, she'd have to leave him there. If she had him in Cleveland (which has the nations 2nd best NICU) she could stay with him. She wanted to stay with him for obvious reason, but also so she could nurse.
Tweet, not only was she leaking, but she also had blood mixed into it. I didn't know until after she had the baby, but she told us that they didn't check her for 2 days. Since it was her first, she had no clue as to what was normal. They had her flat on her back for the whole day before she went into labor. Which the doctors in Cleveland weren't happy with at all. OH! And the Dr. in our town told her that it was perfectly fine to go swimming (in Lake Erie) when she first went to his office as she was leaking and he sent her home.
Honestly, I could tell you complete horror stories about our hospital, but I don't want to seem like I am bashing doctors because I completely respect the ones who deserve it. I love our family doctor and the boy's doctor, but our OBGYNs are so bad that it was the final straw in deciding not to have any more kids.
Maret00
05-29-2009, 11:00 AM
That is terrible not having anymore children just because of the docs. CRAZY not you but that it is at that point!
still_me
05-29-2009, 08:04 PM
That is terrible not having anymore children just because of the docs. CRAZY not you but that it is at that point!
Like I said, it helped out final decision. I was in labor (first contraction to final push) with DS1 for right under 4hrs. With DS2 it happened even more quickly. With him from beginning to end was 2 hrs and close to 30 mins. I know each pregnancy is different, but I don't want to pull a Red and have the next one in the car as we drive 45 mins to the nearest hospital.
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