Internet news--IHMMB shutting down

[Amy_G_]

Please be nice if we get some extra visitors in the next couple weeks. Tracy decided to shut down the IHMMB forums, and a lot of people are at a loss of where to go for a message board home.

Can we welcome those that are interested in BF.com with open arms?
I know there are many I would love to see here, even the snarky ones. ;)

[MrsKitty]

Ohh more people :) Fine by me!

[pawprint]

I never left. I'd be happy to see some old faces. not sure that there will be some great influx though.

[kasumisniper]

I never left. I'd be happy to see some old faces. not sure that there will be some great influx though.


Why is that? :(

[pawprint]

Why is that? :(


people had reasons for leaving that have not changed.

[Amy_G_]

I know people left over the map--which is gone cause Vic's servers couldn't keep up with the load for it.
and people left over being disrespected by the owner of bf.com--he's not here anymore, the Knot owns bf.com now.
and people left over not having a say in what happens in their community--which is still the standard on most message boards on the internet.

So if anyone comes back, it's not slinking back with their tail between their legs, except in the sense that this board is still here, while IHMMB will disappear.

It is sad that Tracy is not moving the board to a different server with a new owner and keep it intact. That seems like a respectful option, even if it might be difficult to make happen.

[MiMi_of_4]

I would love to see some of those who left come back...

[tata]

people had reasons for leaving that have not changed.

:( Maybe it shouldn't, but that hurt.

[RedMamaBear]

IMHO, the door is always open. There's a lot of lovely folks that I miss, but it's up to their own conscious. There's no shame in sticking to your guns or putting them away. Welcome back! :)

[LadyLiberty]

I know people left over the map--which is gone cause Vic's servers couldn't keep up with the load for it.
and people left over being disrespected by the owner of bf.com--he's not here anymore, the Knot owns bf.com now.
and people left over not having a say in what happens in their community--which is still the standard on most message boards on the internet.

So if anyone comes back, it's not slinking back with their tail between their legs, except in the sense that this board is still here, while IHMMB will disappear.

It is sad that Tracy is not moving the board to a different server with a new owner and keep it intact. That seems like a respectful option, even if it might be difficult to make happen.

Sorry to drop in out of nowhere, but do you know if that is possible? I thought it was, but am not knowledgeable enough about servers, domain names, and message board software to know for certain.

[Sputterduck]

Yes, it is possible.

[Ilovemonkeys]

WTH? Who appointed AmyG hall monitor?

[Ma_Whit]

Nice OP. :) And good point about the changes that have happened here since then.

[Ma_Whit]

Diva las Dookie, or something.

[Solare]

WTH? Who appointed AmyG hall monitor?


She's apparently taken over my job of cross-posting the drama threads.

[JudyJudyJudy]

people had reasons for leaving that have not changed.
Odd. I thought a lot had changed. I've tried other message boards, but ultimately, this continues to be my home because there is no need for ass-kissing here, and regardless of what many think, there isn't nilly-willy deletion of threads; I find both of those problems to be common on other boards.


WTH? Who appointed AmyG hall monitor?
I didn't see anything wrong with this thread. And, of course, I'd welcome back anyone who wanted to return; I miss a lot of people.

[Ilovemonkeys]

I thought it was pretentious, but that could be b/c of the OP.
Here I was planning on replying to any new/returning poster with "eat shit and die strange poster!"

Like there are *that* many new posters here that will be all confused when/if some old schoolers show up. And like the posters here would be mean to them. Unless they show back up posting about bfing while having sex, I think they're good.

[LadyLiberty]

Who's Tracy?

Weren't you posting over at IHMMB too, CM? Or maybe I just have really vivid memories of your orangutan.

[janie]

Kicked to the curb.

Ouch.

Ok, I saw that one coming a mile away. Probably two miles, at least.

[tata]

The comment:read ration speaks volumes. *Waving to all the guests*

[kasumisniper]

ITA w/Judy.

Welcome back Lady Liberty! I hope you and others make this your home again!

[KerryS]

Hi, I'm back!

Just kidding. I never left.

there is no need for ass-kissing here

Indeed.

[Ilovemonkeys]

Kicked to the curb.

Ouch.

Ok, I saw that one coming a mile away. Probably two miles, at least.


Please to explain? Do you work for Dionne Warwick's Psychic Friends Network??

Seriously, why do you say that?

[Tweet]

I'm not planning on being snarky to anyone. I don't begrudge anyone coming back. I did have hurt feelings with some a long time ago,but that has pretty much passed.

I do have to sort of chuckle at the OP,though. No offense, Amy. It's just that we're pretty much all grown ups,afaik. Can't really ask someone to not have beef w/ someone else,IMO. Not that I think anyone does,but I don't think anyone is so delicate that they can't either handle criticism,ignore flames,or give it right back.

[Tweet]

Oh, and I agree that we won't have this big ole influx of posters. At the risk of board dragging, I've read today that there are many who feel this just isn't a good fit for them for whatever reason(s).It feels like an overwhelming majority,actually,though I'm not sure how accurate that is. I do not expect it and have not for a very long awhile

[pawprint]

Janie, I don't think most people are shocked. well not anyone paying attention anyway, lol.

[Amy_G_]

At least Vic didn't delete the message boards when the site stats went down,
he sold us to the knot instead. ;)

[TryAgain]

*waves*

[Sputterduck]

Frankly, I'd be ecstatic if all our old people came back. Way, way ecstatic.

[rockmom]

I never really left here. I just posted here less than I used to.

[BeanBabies]

I never left here either, so y'all are still stuck with me. :)

[janie]

Please to explain? Do you work for Dionne Warwick's Psychic Friends Network??

Seriously, why do you say that?Oh, I could give a lot of reasons because studying people/groups is what I do. They tend to follow a pattern.

Basically, IHMMB became the exact same board that spawned IHMMB in the first place.

As it is, it shall aways be.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[Sputterduck]

Basically, IHMMB became the exact same board that spawned IHMMB in the first place.



Really?

[still_me]

I don't get it. There isn't some magical shield that is now down that would allow "old" posters to come back. They were welcome at any time. The ones who left aren't sheep. They don't have to be herded and kept at a certain website.

Is the thought that since there isn't a "gathering place" for those who left, some feel they won't get flack for coming back?

I really don't get the brewhaha.

[Amy_G_]

I don't get it. There isn't some magical shield that is now down that would allow "old" posters to come back. They were welcome at any time. The ones who left aren't sheep. They don't have to be herded and kept at a certain website.

Is the thought that since there isn't a "gathering place" for those who left, some feel they won't get flack for coming back?

I really don't get the brewhaha.

I don't see a brewhaha at all
UNLESS you (or others) plan to give them flack for coming back?

I see no reason they should get flack for coming back and would like to see the board as a whole have that attitude. bf.com isn't the same place they left, so if they come back, it isn't like they aren't giving up on some ideal they left over.

[pawprint]

Oh, I could give a lot of reasons because studying people/groups is what I do. They tend to follow a pattern.

Basically, IHMMB became the exact same board that spawned IHMMB in the first place.

As it is, it shall aways be.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...


I have no allegiances to IHMMB. In fact, I'm pretty fucking pissed off about it. But you are wrong. I've been here for seven years- and they are not the same. Not at all. And i think ihmmb was the worse for it. but there's no accounting for taste.

[still_me]

I don't see a brewhaha at all
UNLESS you (or others) plan to give them flack for coming back?

I see no reason they should get flack for coming back and would like to see the board as a whole have that attitude. bf.com isn't the same place they left, so if they come back, it isn't like they aren't giving up on some ideal they left over.


Oh, yes, I plan on giving them flack. I am so that type of person. :rolleyes:

As for the "brewhaha" I was referring to this thread. What is the point?

[RaisingThemLeft]

Oh, I could give a lot of reasons because studying people/groups is what I do. They tend to follow a pattern.

Basically, IHMMB became the exact same board that spawned IHMMB in the first place.

As it is, it shall aways be.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

I don't agree with that. IHMMB doesn't get influxes of new posters. IMO, constant influxes of new posters (who generally tend to be young, first time moms because of this board's slant) changes the dynamics of the board.

[Justicedog]

I don't understand the purpose of this OP. It irritates me - first, don't tell me to behave, if I need to be told to behave, then I probably wouldn't follow your instructions and second, it seems to presumes a reaction that may very well not happen.

[Sym]

Well, I'm back for the umpteenth time, and I sure as hell ain't slinking back in !

The main thing I will miss is "The Body Electric", so you cann all expect to see Daily Workout Threads here, at least on the days I post.

Feel free to ignore them, or better yet, feel guilted into joining in on the fitness based daily check in threads.

I pretty much agree with Paw's opinions over there, but can't seem to muster up any real feelings about the demise.

It just cements some stuff that I have felt for quite awhile now.

My only concern is losing touch with "message board" buddies that I had over there, there is a good chance many will come here, I hope they do.

[MrsKitty]

Aww and just a few weeks ago we were complaining that things were too slow :)

[still_me]

I don't understand the purpose of this OP. It irritates me - first, don't tell me to behave, if I need to be told to behave, then I probably wouldn't follow your instructions and second, it seems to presumes a reaction that may very well not happen.


Yep to all of this. It actually made me feel like it was stirring drama up. Those who know about or lurk at IHMMB knew this was going on. Those of us who didn't know, don't know for a reason. It isn't a negative thing. It is just a "Well, that sucks for them...." thing.

And really, the ones that might come back aren't coming back to start crap. It is just jumping the gun...or giving way to much credit to this place.

[Babyhellfire]

I have no idea what going on.. but I would love to see posters come back. So many I have missed

[QuiltyConscience]

I don't see a brewhaha at all
UNLESS you (or others) plan to give them flack for coming back?

I see no reason they should get flack for coming back and would like to see the board as a whole have that attitude. bf.com isn't the same place they left, so if they come back, it isn't like they aren't giving up on some ideal they left over.

Hmpf. Stillme is one of the non-flackiest posters I know. I am certain she would not give a flack to anyone.

[hidesome]

I hope IHMMB posters feel welcome here too. Speaking strictly from a personal point of view, I am equal opportunity snark and sarcasm on either board. As Janie said, some things never change...

[pawprint]

I pretty much agree with Paw's opinions over there, but can't seem to muster up any real feelings about the demise.


for whatever reason, I've been the voice of the board over here a dozen times or so in the last month. now it happened at ihmmb. I keep threatening to run for office, lol. I really almost did not post what I did over there. I'm glad I did now. pawprint: champion of the common (wo)man. ROFL.

[QuiltyConscience]

Honestly, I don't see much brewing of hahas. I will be quite happy to see some new or returning posters, I've messed them.


So welcome back anyone, I won't brew any hahas, I swear!!

[still_me]

Honestly, I don't see much brewing of hahas. I will be quite happy to see some new or returning posters, I've messed them.


So welcome back anyone, I won't brew any hahas, I swear!!

I guarantee I won't brew any hahas too, but I don't guarantee not to sing this every time I type that word.


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Thanks for having my back, Quilty. I'd offer to give you a highfive, but Heaven forbid we drag anymore baggage into this thread. :D

[Justicedog]

Oh, I didn't mention in my other post that I'd be happy for those who left to come back and for any newcomers. I missed seeing them here and can't keep up with multiple boards. So, Welcome and Welcome Back!

[dalurker]

Pfft.

[_Gypsy_]

I really miss a lot of posters who left, I was just completely unable to keep up with IHMMB in addition to other, smaller boards I frequent - it was either give up IHMMB or give up the other three.

I had my differences with a few posters, but I'll welcome them all back.

[HammBugga]

what an odd thread.

[Amy_G_]

This is indeed an odd thread,
but it's the only thing moving on the front page.
;)

Sassy's post seems even um, odder to me, for some reason but I'm not sure why, cause I know here heart is in the right place.
http://www.breastfeeding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43328

but nobody has come back yet, have they?
maybe board stats are up?? :~

[kasumisniper]

*waves*


Welcome back!

[Crabbie]

Well, to who ever comes back, welcome back :D

[Tweet]

I don't get it. There isn't some magical shield that is now down that would allow "old" posters to come back. They were welcome at any time. The ones who left aren't sheep. They don't have to be herded and kept at a certain website.

Is the thought that since there isn't a "gathering place" for those who left, some feel they won't get flack for coming back?

I really don't get the brewhaha.


I feel like that too,sort of. It's not like people were kicked out and in fact, so many of us were heart broken that shit went down the way it did. I can't see what good it would do NOW to throw that in someone's face. The more I think about it, the more irked I get. I am sure it wasn't Amy's intention to make anyone feel bad, but I feel sort of like we're being told, "Now,children..I want you to behave when little Johnny Jones comes back over !" I mean, it'd be swell to have a little credit for one thing. And like I said, even if someone DID have an issue, I'm confident that adults would handle it just fine.

[Tweet]

Or what JD said.

[still_me]

This is indeed an odd thread,
but it's the only thing moving on the front page.
;)

Sassy's post seems even um, odder to me, for some reason but I'm not sure why, cause I know here heart is in the right place.
http://www.breastfeeding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43328

but nobody has come back yet, have they?
maybe board stats are up?? :~


Ah, and there it is. Fodder.


It hit me this morning that this whole PSA reminds me of those people who bring up past stuff "just because". It isn't until they bring it up that you realize how much emotion is still there, then you are just annoyed because you had moved past it, and there it is again "just because".

[cream_city]

I have no idea what going on.. but I would love to see posters come back. So many I have missed

Exactly.

[PilotswifePA]

I've lurked...rarely posted...I'm going to stick my big toe in and test the waters for a little while.

[kasumisniper]

I've lurked...rarely posted...I'm going to stick my big toe in and test the waters for a little while.


Great! Welcome! :hugegrin:

[still_me]

I've lurked...rarely posted...I'm going to stick my big toe in and test the waters for a little while.


:) I was wondering how you were doing. You had posted that your DH was laid off and then *poof* you were gone. Welcome back!

[KatieLou]

Welcome back!!

[kasumisniper]

I think we can all agree that everyone would be welcomed back. Am I wrong?

[KerryS]

As I wrote to you on the other site - if I were a member here who never went over to IHMMB, I think I would probably be pretty annoyed if suddenly people started reappearing. It would feel to me like we weren't good enough before, but now that their home is gone, suddenly we're good enough now. Not to mention, this site is not the same site that people left a year and a half ago - you can't just reappear and pretend that nothing's changed.

[kasumisniper]

I haven't seen that here Kerry.

[KerryS]

You haven't seen what here?

[kasumisniper]

You haven't seen what here?
The negative sentiment.

[KerryS]

Perhaps because our members here are just too polite. But I don't think you can assume that every person here will be delighted to have a mass influx of disgruntled former IHMMB members, and that they will all be welcomed with open arms.

[kasumisniper]

Lol I think the board is more outspoken then you're giving it credit for Kerry.

[KerryS]

Oh, you're right. Silly me - you know this place so much better than I do. Never mind the fact that I've been here for 9 years and I'm a moderator. I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Nipple_nectar]

Frankly, I'd be ecstatic if all our old people came back. Way, way ecstatic.

Me too! Welcome back, pull up a chair, give us an update~ I have missed you!

[janie]

Perhaps because our members here are just too polite. But I don't think you can assume that every person here will be delighted to have a mass influx of disgruntled former IHMMB members, and that they will all be welcomed with open arms.I don't know. Do they use words like vitriol and then say things like "I'm super sad"?

That has no place on this board, as far as I'm concerned.

[Nipple_nectar]

Kasumi, you are Catsoup, right? Thanks for such positive feedback over at IHMMB about BFDC, I happen to agree with you.

I think this place has always had the potential for embracing it's members and accentuating all the positive aspects each member has to bring:)

[PilotswifePA]

:) I was wondering how you were doing. You had posted that your DH was laid off and then *poof* you were gone. Welcome back!

Still laid off...but has some promising leads for this fall so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Craigie started Kindergarten this year and Caitlin is...Caitlin lol. She's 2 1/2, still nursing, and as ornery as the day is long

[KerryS]

I don't know. Do they use words like vitriol and then say things like "I'm super sad"?

That has no place on this board, as far as I'm concerned.

I have no idea what this means, or what to make of it.

[kasumisniper]

Oh, you're right. Silly me - you know this place so much better than I do. Never mind the fact that I've been here for 9 years and I'm a moderator. I don't know what I'm talking about.

I didn't say I knew it better than you. Not that the amount of time you've been here seems to matter anymore, since everyone seems to believe that this is a totally different place. If that's true, then I know it as well as you.

[kasumisniper]

Kasumi, you are Catsoup, right? Thanks for such positive feedback over at IHMMB about BFDC, I happen to agree with you.

I think this place has always had the potential for embracing it's members and accentuating all the positive aspects each member has to bring:)


Yes I am. Thank you. I think so too.

[still_me]

Opinions and intelligence are able to be found in full force at both boards. The vibes though are completely different.

I still don't understand why anyone thinks BFDC would be a blip on anyone's radar over there. Those who left felt very strong about leaving, and I don't see why something like this would change their hearts/minds.

[still_me]

Still laid off...but has some promising leads for this fall so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Craigie started Kindergarten this year and Caitlin is...Caitlin lol. She's 2 1/2, still nursing, and as ornery as the day is long


I hope he is able to go back soon. :) I didn't know our little ones were so close in age. DS1 just started Kindergarten this fall too, and DS2 will be 3 on October 31st.

[kasumisniper]

Opinions and intelligence are able to be found in full force at both boards. The vibes though are completely different.

I still don't understand why anyone thinks BFDC would be a blip on anyone's radar over there. Those who left felt very strong about leaving, and I don't see why something like this would change their hearts/minds.


Just being hopeful I guess. :)

[more_creme]

I agree with Kerry. Having been here for years, having participating in many of the splinter boards, there invariably are annoyances and sometimes big waves of angst when there are sudden influxes from other splinter boards. Invariable and always. Sometimes it's a matter of days, sometimes it's a matter of hours, sometimes weeks - but shit always hits the fans and somebody's feelings always get hurt.

So I understand the PSA, it doesn't bother me at all.

Will be interesting to see what happens in the next fw weeks, that's for sure.

[Justicedog]

As I wrote to you on the other site - if I were a member here who never went over to IHMMB, I think I would probably be pretty annoyed if suddenly people started reappearing. It would feel to me like we weren't good enough before, but now that their home is gone, suddenly we're good enough now. Not to mention, this site is not the same site that people left a year and a half ago - you can't just reappear and pretend that nothing's changed.


I guess I don't see it that way. I don't think people left because of me, they left for other reasons, outside of my control so I'm not going to take that personally, just like when a friend moves away. It just is, they're not moving because of me.

Yeah, this site isn't the same, I wouldn't expect those who choose to come back and pretend that nothing's changed. I'd expect a renewing of their "membership" or friendships.

But, I may be weird, I don't know.

[Justicedog]

.....

So I understand the PSA, it doesn't bother me at all.

....

Spoken like a (reformed?) board policewoman.


"cathug"

:smoochy

[JudyJudyJudy]

Perhaps because our members here are just too polite. But I don't think you can assume that every person here will be delighted to have a mass influx of disgruntled former IHMMB members, and that they will all be welcomed with open arms.
I don't think most people here will be bothered by a lot of "newcomers"—at least not initially. However, if they start feeling pushed out of their own home, then they'll likely not be happy.

[HammBugga]

I don't know. Do they use words like vitriol and then say things like "I'm super sad"?

That has no place on this board, as far as I'm concerned.


I have no idea what this means, or what to make of it.


You'll do best to ignore Janie, her posts are nonsensical about 95% of the time. Although I think I can actually decipher what she was trying to say with this one: people here are really idiots trying to seem intelligent by occasionally using "big" words.

[HammBugga]

I'll step up and say that if, all of a sudden, someone who has said they don't like this board because it is too "High school" and isn't for them suddenly started posting I wouldn't be very happy. Of course we all know we post alongside people who may or may not like us and they may or may not say so but it is different when you actually know they don't like you. I liken it to a popular kid being too good to sit with you at your regular lunch table but when all their friends graduate they sit down with you because they have nowhere else to go.

I know that is not the majority of posters at ihmmb, but some of them have been vocal about how they don't like what this board has become and they seem to be looking down on it. Although I highly doubt they will ever come back if they did it might raise some eyebrows. Of course I wouldn't say anything to stir the pot though because people do have changes of heart but I would hope they would apologize.

[Ilovemonkeys]

Well- I didn't leave either, I lurk a lot more than I post nowadays but there is just no comparing this board as it is today to what it was 7-8 years ago when I started posting.

IMO, the board dynamic was a lot better back in the day and I do miss that board and for a while after so many people left this board was majorly dumbed down. And for me that sucks. It would be nice to have some old posters back imo.

So i'm not going to fault anyone for saying this board is just a shadow of what it once was, b/c I think that's true. Hell, in 02 I was afraid of this board, it was so full force and fast moving, it's nothing like that now.

Since the map i've tolerated this board b/c I love, LOVE a lot of the posters here and this community is not one I was willing to give up.
Bf.com and the people of bf.com have made such a huge positive influence on my life. I'm greatful for that.

I do understand how someone could get pissed at someone coming back in and trying to take their place at the cheerleader's cafeteria table, but for me that will just color my view of that one person, and not the board.

This board is made by the posters and nothing else.

As for the board nannying, it's just not needed most of the time and this time it was so beyond not needed that nannying on this topic at this point just makes the nanny look stupid, self-important and attention seeking. IMO.
Not that i'm first to ever call AMYG an attention whore.

[kasumisniper]

You stayed because you love this board, even though it was "majorly dumbed down". No, that's not offensive at all.

[Amy_G_]

Oh, you're right. Silly me - you know this place so much better than I do. Never mind the fact that I've been here for 9 years and I'm a moderator. I don't know what I'm talking about.

Kerry, you have barely been here for the last year and a half. You post occassionally, and don't read every day, so I'm not sure you really know this place as well as you think you do.

We do have quite a few young posters here, I will suggest that they would welcome having a few more of the been there, done that women on the board to give advice, and not just about baby stuff and breastfeeding.

[Amy_G_]

I will agree that the board is "dumbed down" after so many left,
but not because the collective IQ is lower, but the collective number of years of experience is lower. Experience with breastfeeding, newborns, special needs, parenting, excercise, what's for dinner, all those things. when you have a wider base of people, and if their collective ages average a bit higher, you'll have people with more "smarts" so to speak. Right now bf.com has many more new moms, people without years of experience parenting, or cooking dinner, or losing weight, or whatever the topic of the day is. I think having some "old timmers" return to bf.com would change the dynamics in a good way. I know not all will return, and probably not even more than a fraction.

My op was part heads up, part board nanny, part wondering out loud what will happen. Like most posts on this board....

[Ilovemonkeys]

You weren't here in 2002, you don't know what this board was like then, I didn't say it was dumbed down b/c *you* were here, I said it was dumbed down and it was.
It was dumbed down b/c the speed, quantity and quality of conversation went from 150 mph to 5 mph in a second.
If that offends you, oh well, that's JMO.

[Ilovemonkeys]

I will agree that the board is "dumbed down" after so many left,
but not because the collective IQ is lower, but the collective number of years of experience is lower. Experience with breastfeeding, newborns, special needs, parenting, excercise, what's for dinner, all those things. when you have a wider base of people, and if their collective ages average a bit higher, you'll have people with more "smarts" so to speak. Right now bf.com has many more new moms, people without years of experience parenting, or cooking dinner, or losing weight, or whatever the topic of the day is. I think having some "old timmers" return to bf.com would change the dynamics in a good way. I know not all will return, and probably not even more than a fraction.




Well I can actually agree with you on most of that, mark the calendar, that's like the 3rd time. lol

[QuiltyConscience]

Perhaps because our members here are just too polite. But I don't think you can assume that every person here will be delighted to have a mass influx of disgruntled former IHMMB members, and that they will all be welcomed with open arms.


Okay, how about we will mostly happily welcome those who want to come, and but those who have gone on and on about how we are all stupid and beneath them probably aren't going to come anyway so let's not worry much about it.

We can't make them love us if they don't.. .

message boards always change, people come and go, no point in fretting over what might happen. Just keep a good stash of popcorn on hand .

[Amy_G_]

I have plenty of popcorn.
Anybody want to buy cub scout popcorn? I can give you the link and you can buy online to support my boys in their scouting outings.....

[Ilovemonkeys]

My dh once bought home a tub of that crap and I didn't even like it all that much but I ate about half of it just b/c it had chocolate on it, now the words boy scouts and popcorn together make me queasy.

I've got some kettlekorn though, this board was all about the kettlekorn back in the day and I finally try it a few months ago and it's rank too.

I have popcorn issues, lol.

[JudyJudyJudy]

I'm just laughing at all the "I know more about this board than you do" posts.

[Amy_G_]

There is regular microwave popcorn and even popping kernels if you'd like? ;)
The chocolate popcorn this year is yogurt drizzled and then chocolate drizzled, totally different than previous years....

[Amy_G_]

I'm just laughing at all the "I know more about this board than you do" posts.
who do you agree with on the board description Judy?

[QuiltyConscience]

Oh, we are in full swing on the boy scout popcorn here, man.

[JudyJudyJudy]

who do you agree with on the board description Judy?
I'm somewhere in the middle. If I've learned anything from this board, it's that we're all so diverse that we'll react differently to situations and see things from different perspectives. The board can't be lumped together and expected to act a certain way.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Oh, we are in full swing on the boy scout popcorn here, man.
I boycott Boy Scout anything, so where does that leave me? (It probably "may contain peanuts" anyway. ;))

[QuiltyConscience]

I boycott Boy Scout anything, so where does that leave me? (It probably "may contain peanuts" anyway. ;))

You'll just have to stock up on popcorn elsewhere.

[Ilovemonkeys]

I boycott BoyScout too, my dh mentioned buying more this year and I freaked out a little, mostly b/c I was about to hurl just thinking about it.

As far as who knows this board better all I know is my perceptions of the board and that's what i'm speaking(typing lol) on.

I'll react my way and i'll explain why if needed, but I won't tell anyone else how to react.

I will however jump right in the middle of the messageboard lightbulb changing! A'la how many bf.commers does it take to change a lightbulb??
A: all of them and a few Sybermoms too! lol

[janie]

I don't get it. There isn't some magical shield that is now down that would allow "old" posters to come back. They were welcome at any time. The ones who left aren't sheep. They don't have to be herded and kept at a certain website.

Is the thought that since there isn't a "gathering place" for those who left, some feel they won't get flack for coming back?

I really don't get the brewhaha.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, now this is priceless. They aren't sheep? Every one of them is over there boo-hooing and posting their good-bye and discussing how they are off to change the world since their internet time is going kaput. They are all vowing to take breaks and replace their stunted lives with visions of grandeurish power to the people with the internetless lives.

Oh, somebody has a new board? Quick, send me the link.

If that ain't sheeplike, ain't nothin' sheeplike.

[sarsie1]

Uh janie-who the hell are you? Have you posted with us for years and years? you seem to think you have some kind of special insight. If you feel like bashing those posting on IHMMB, why don't you do so to their/our face, over there, instead of bringing it here and trying to start some kind of board war using the emotions and concerns of others to feed your sick mind.

Stunted lives? WTF do you have that you need to find your entertainment in the lives of others and how they plan to deal with the potential loss of friendships? Sounds to me like you're the one with a stunted life.

I read this thread and had no intention of saying anything--I have PMed people here during the time I've been gone, and I've made a special effort to talk to a couple people that had melanoma scares or concerns, and any time anyone told me I was asked about here, I came back as well...but this is not the final resting place for me anymore. Still, there are several people here that I miss a lot. But, to see someone like janie, who has some kind of superior god complex say the things she is saying cannot be ignored by me anyway.

Janie, when you manage to grow your stunted life and don't need to feed off the emotions of others like the troll that you apparently are, then you come back and say something. Otherwise, if you think you're so awesome, say what you have to say to the face of those you are saying it about.

[chickabiddy2]

I'll step up and say that if, all of a sudden, someone who has said they don't like this board because it is too "High school" and isn't for them suddenly started posting I wouldn't be very happy. Of course we all know we post alongside people who may or may not like us and they may or may not say so but it is different when you actually know they don't like you. I liken it to a popular kid being too good to sit with you at your regular lunch table but when all their friends graduate they sit down with you because they have nowhere else to go.

I know that is not the majority of posters at ihmmb, but some of them have been vocal about how they don't like what this board has become and they seem to be looking down on it. Although I highly doubt they will ever come back if they did it might raise some eyebrows. Of course I wouldn't say anything to stir the pot though because people do have changes of heart but I would hope they would apologize.

Well, I'm one who wrote on the other board that I didn't care for it here any more (and yes, I came back because I read that IHMMB and a possible influx were being discussed).

Boards change, and people change. I don't feel that I "fit" here now. Oh well. I don't really like raisins, Levis, jazz, or Chryslers either. Different tastes, but that doesn't mean one is better than the other. I don't wish to offend, but I also don't feel as if I owe any apologies.

[janie]

(reply to Sarsie...)

Oh sheesh.

Potential loss of friendships? Didn't someone send you the new link?

You all marched blindly off to war to some great land and now you are being exhiled. I just find it funny. You're a little miffed, sure, but nobody is taking away your puppy.

Calm down.

And you all are over there calling this board a bunch of uneducated, ignorant hacks... so, there you go. Why don't you come over here and say it to their faces? Oh, because you all only "peek in".

heehee

[KerryS]

Kerry, you have barely been here for the last year and a half. You post occassionally, and don't read every day, so I'm not sure you really know this place as well as you think you do.

Because you seem to have an ax to grind with me about this, and I'm finding it really tiresome...

I just checked - I've posted over 170 times in the last three months (and that's not including the past two days, in which I've posted more than I usually do). I hardly call that "barely here."

[KerryS]

And you all are over there calling this board a bunch of uneducated, ignorant hacks... so, there you go. Why don't you come over here and say it to their faces? Oh, because you all only "peek in".

No, we all are NOT all over there calling this board a bunch of uneducated, ignorant hacks. One or two people said they feel this board has "dumbed down" in the last year or two.

[janie]

Since I started reading these boards, which was right around the split, IHMMB has always considered themselves the "smart ones" and this board, well, less than smart.

That's a fact.

[JudyJudyJudy]

To be fair, this board was "dumbed down" long before the mass exodus. That issue was discussed on numerous occasions long before the map drama. I remember starting a thread about it years ago, and I remember Blue, among others, posting on the thread.

[KerryS]

Since I started reading these boards, which was right around the split, IHMMB has always considered themselves the "smart ones" and this board, well, less than smart.

That's a fact.

I wish you would quit referring to the site as one entity, rather than hundreds of individuals that all have different opinions.

I would venture a guess that a handful of the IHMMB members think of themselves as the "smart ones" - but that hardly equates to the entire site.

[Amy_G_]

I boycott Boy Scout anything, so where does that leave me? (It probably "may contain peanuts" anyway. ;))

you could send popcorn to the troops in Afghanistan or Iraq and it wouldn't matter if it "may contain peanuts."
Of course, that would mean a % of that would go to send my kid off to camp for a week. Guess I should spin off the boycott of Boy Scouts thing, since we haven't discussed the evilness of BSA for a while....

[Coconuts71]

Since I started reading these boards, which was right around the split, IHMMB has always considered themselves the "smart ones" and this board, well, less than smart.

That's a fact.


So what you're saying is right around the time you showed up, a large group of people began feeling the board was dumbed down? Huh. Odd coincidence.

[JudyJudyJudy]

No, Amy, I won't support Boy Scouts, period. Feel free to spin off.

[janie]

So what you're saying is right around the time you showed up, a large group of people began feeling the board was dumbed down? Huh. Odd coincidence.Nope. Apparently Judy said it was dum befoor I got here.

Oh god, now here come the high fives and the quotes in sigs. Yep, I remember this all too well.

[Coconuts71]

Quick, someone high five me.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Nope. Apparently Judy said it was dum befoor I got here.
Originally this board was truly a "debate/discussion" forum. You could seldom come to the board without either learning something, being intimidated, or both. However, over the years it became fluffier and fluffier. I personally liked it somewhere in the middle (a combination of debate and friendship), but I've stayed regardless.

[EvilAmy]

I need to lay off my meds and find some more triggers so I can have a freakout of some sorts about this all. I'm just having trouble getting worked up one way or another about what is going on; I can't blame anyone and how their feeling and I can understand how they might feel that way, on both sides.


I'm just flat out no fun right now.

[Sputterduck]

Dang. *sniffle* I miss the old harsher days...

[Coconuts71]

Originally this board was truly a "debate/discussion" forum. You could seldom come to the board without either learning something, being intimidated, or both. However, over the years it became fluffier and fluffier. I personally liked it somewhere in the middle (a combination of debate and friendship), but I've stayed regardless.

I agree. That's when I really liked it too.

Odd, I decided to start posting again a few days ago, and then this happened yesterday.

[sarsie1]

(reply to Sarsie...)

Oh sheesh.

Potential loss of friendships? Didn't someone send you the new link?

You all marched blindly off to war to some great land and now you are being exhiled. I just find it funny. You're a little miffed, sure, but nobody is taking away your puppy.

Calm down.

And you all are over there calling this board a bunch of uneducated, ignorant hacks... so, there you go. Why don't you come over here and say it to their faces? Oh, because you all only "peek in".

heehee


I didn't say anyone was a "bunch of uneducated, ignorant hacks" and I get teh feeling from the posts here that your word isn't exactly taken at face value anyway.

What I DID say is that I see a lot of ignorance here that I was no longer used to, from newer members, not long-time members, and I no longer had the patience to discuss a lot of that stuff from the ground up. I still feel that way and I'm perfectly happy saying it "to your face" however I didn't say it to insult anyone here or otherwise-I was saying that to my friends, about why I don't feel that comfy here as a landing place/home anymore. I don't have the patience, or the time, to deal with some of what I see coming from a lot of newer folks-mostly younger people. I have removed myself from "younger" boards all over right now, as well as IRL. That's not an insult, it's just that I am at a time in my life where 18-20-year-olds aren't my main people to hang out with anymore. If that offends you, oh well.

Apparently, you seem to think you have some special insight as to us and how we feel. Let me assure you, you don't.

And yes, most folks there are concerned about a potential loss of friendships. Just as *I* was when I left here. I've managed to keep a bunch of friendships, but I have also mourned the loss of a few because I just couldn't keep up everywhere and I ultimately had to choose between the two boards.

By the way, I did not go to IHMMB for the same reasons as some people-we are not one giant entity. In fact, I went to IHMMB quite a bit LATER than most of the others. My reasons for going were not the same as everyone's, adn EVERYONE has their reasons-they are not ALL the same.

Now, I will, however, call YOU an uneducated, ignorant hack to your face, because you clearly are both uneducated AND ignorant AND a hack in regard to what you are posting here in this thread and about the members of IHMMB. I also am not "miffed" in any way that Tracy is closing the boards. I am concerned that somethign will be lsot in translation ... as it always is, as it was when I went to IHMMB and stopped coming here a lot. But I'm not miffed. A lot of people aren't miffed. You are presenting a falsehood in the way you are describing the goings on right now.

I do find your ire interesting--you're all upset and calling people names and all of that, while telling me to "calm down?"

I don't speak on behalf of IHMMB, janie. I am me, and me alone and my opinions and comments in no way represent those of other IHMMB posters, so don't try to paint all of them with my paintbrush.

[sarsie1]

oh, and like Judy said-the "dumbing down" was something that had been talked about repeatedly long before the "exodus."

[Babyblue]

I miss the larger amount of group knowledge. When I first started posting and asked a question it was answered nearly immediately. Now if I have a question I generally post in the evening and check back in the morning for responses.

I also think the debate board has gotten fluffier because of the lower amount of posting on the other forums, there just isn’t enough posting on each one so most people post the fluffier things on the debate forum because its read more often.

[janie]

I agree. That's when I really liked it too.

Odd, I decided to start posting again a few days ago, and then this happened yesterday.Hmmmm.

Seriously, when you can start grouping an entire message board, their time is limited. You need different personalities with different opinions to make it interesting.

IHMMB was becoming stagnant, just like this one. It tends to happen. People get mad and splinter and splinter. Everyone left tends to gather for the friendships, rather than the heated debates.

In all honesty, I've never seen one actually come back together. If it does, you have to get past a lot of hurt feelings that caused the split in the first place.

[Candi]

I have removed myself from "younger" boards all over right now, as well as IRL.

Do you mind me asking how old you are?

[tata]

I'm not sure I have anything of value to contribute here.

My general feeling of Amy_G's reason for posting was a PSA since we have had a lot of trolls and a lot of n00bs who are unaware that people who may come back to bf.com after the GMB2008. But I do think it was - at least in part - something for us to discuss, beings that there are a number of us who have been around that long. Anyhow, that's the way I interpreted it. I could be wrong and I'm okay with that.

I miss a lot of people who used to post here. I'm perfectly okay with people coming back. It makes good sense to me if they did since the reason they left to begin with has been resolved. I will admit to being both narcissistic and paranoid that if they didn't come back, it would be all my fault. After all, the GMB2008 occurred near-simultaneously with a rather ugly roasting directly involving me.

[JudyJudyJudy]

I didn't say anyone was a "bunch of uneducated, ignorant hacks" and I get teh feeling from the posts here that your word isn't exactly taken at face value anyway.

What I DID say is that I see a lot of ignorance here that I was no longer used to, from newer members, not long-time members, and I no longer had the patience to discuss a lot of that stuff from the ground up. I still feel that way and I'm perfectly happy saying it "to your face" however I didn't say it to insult anyone here or otherwise-I was saying that to my friends, about why I don't feel that comfy here as a landing place/home anymore. I don't have the patience, or the time, to deal with some of what I see coming from a lot of newer folks-mostly younger people. I have removed myself from "younger" boards all over right now, as well as IRL. That's not an insult, it's just that I am at a time in my life where 18-20-year-olds aren't my main people to hang out with anymore. If that offends you, oh well.

Apparently, you seem to think you have some special insight as to us and how we feel. Let me assure you, you don't.

And yes, most folks there are concerned about a potential loss of friendships. Just as *I* was when I left here. I've managed to keep a bunch of friendships, but I have also mourned the loss of a few because I just couldn't keep up everywhere and I ultimately had to choose between the two boards.

By the way, I did not go to IHMMB for the same reasons as some people-we are not one giant entity. In fact, I went to IHMMB quite a bit LATER than most of the others. My reasons for going were not the same as everyone's, adn EVERYONE has their reasons-they are not ALL the same.

Now, I will, however, call YOU an uneducated, ignorant hack to your face, because you clearly are both uneducated AND ignorant AND a hack in regard to what you are posting here in this thread and about the members of IHMMB. I also am not "miffed" in any way that Tracy is closing the boards. I am concerned that somethign will be lsot in translation ... as it always is, as it was when I went to IHMMB and stopped coming here a lot. But I'm not miffed. A lot of people aren't miffed. You are presenting a falsehood in the way you are describing the goings on right now.

I do find your ire interesting--you're all upset and calling people names and all of that, while telling me to "calm down?"

I don't speak on behalf of IHMMB, janie. I am me, and me alone and my opinions and comments in no way represent those of other IHMMB posters, so don't try to paint all of them with my paintbrush.
Don't take it personally. Janie talks just as badly about breastfeeding.com. :p If you don't agree with her political and religious views, you're evil and out to get her and her kind.

[sarsie1]

Hmmmm.

Seriously, when you can start grouping an entire message board, their time is limited. You need different personalities with different opinions to make it interesting.

IHMMB was becoming stagnant, just like this one. It tends to happen. People get mad and splinter and splinter. Everyone left tends to gather for the friendships, rather than the heated debates.

In all honesty, I've never seen one actually come back together. If it does, you have to get past a lot of hurt feelings that caused the split in the first place.

How exactly do you know all about IHMMB janie? Were you a member there that did not identify yourself? There are many things I can think of as to why Tracy needed to close the forums-being "stagnant" isn't one of them.

[sarsie1]

Do you mind me asking how old you are?

I'm 35....*sigh*

[tata]

PilotswifePA, I recently thought of you when I ordered my books from the intartoobz. *wave* Hi!

It's good to see you, TryAgain and chicka and sarsie. You, too, Coconuts. *high five*

[Babyblue]

I do find your ire interesting--you're all upset and calling people names and all of that, while telling me to "calm down?"


I honestly don’t understand the point of most of janies posting. 99% of it is mean spirited, cold, cruel or just plain ignorant. I cant remember her ever posting to lend advice, be compassionate or to help someone else. I will freely admit I have never been a fan of her and have been quite nasty to her in the past. I often wonder why she posts her at all, unless she truly just enjoys being two shades away from a troll.

[sarsie1]

Judy...don't you know I'm ALWAYS evil and out to get everyone!! :D

[JudyJudyJudy]

I'm 35....*sigh*
You're still just a young'un.

[sarsie1]

PilotswifePA, I recently thought of you when I ordered my books from the intartoobz. *wave* Hi!

It's good to see you, TryAgain and chicka and sarsie. You, too, Coconuts. *high five*


Hey tata. :) Good to see you as well.

Believe it or not, I have stalkerishly kept up with some of y'all, or at least tried to.

[Annalise]

To be fair, this board was "dumbed down" long before the mass exodus. That issue was discussed on numerous occasions long before the map drama. I remember starting a thread about it years ago, and I remember Blue, among others, posting on the thread.


I gather the mass exodus was when a bunch of people left and started a new board? Did they leave because of the dumbed down board?

I'm curious if the board was dumber before they left and this other place isn't private, how is it that the other board isn't dumbed down too by the same people that were dumbing it down here? Surely there is a variety of intelligence and lack of at this IHMMB. Unless it's like Mensa and they only let people with a certain IQ in. ;)

This is not addressed to you Judy but I also don't get the sense of this board being a house that people can just crash. It's just a place on the internet to post topics. It's not a house, nobody that is just a poster owns it, and if there were 50 new posters, so what? It's not like the people already here cease to exist or could no longer post how they so choose. I'm sure it would change the dynamics traffic wise because this seems like a fairly slow board but I seriously don't get all the drama in the choice to come back here or not. A board is what you make it. If a large group of "intelligent" people came and started posting "intelligent" topics, it would have a majority of intelligent debate and no longer be a dumbed down board no?

Personally I like the influx of new posters on boards even the trolls. I'd get bored stiff talking to the same old people day after day. Even if they were the smartest bananas in the bunch. ;)

[JudyJudyJudy]

Judy...don't you know I'm ALWAYS evil and out to get everyone!! :D
The funny thing is that you'd probably agree with a lot of Janie's views, but she gets more satisfaction out of thinking that EVERYONE on this board and EVERYONE on IHMMB all think alike and are against her and her kind.

[sarsie1]

I honestly don’t understand the point of most of janies posting. 99% of it is mean spirited, cold, cruel or just plain ignorant. I cant remember her ever posting to lend advice, be compassionate or to help someone else. I will freely admit I have never been a fan of her and have been quite nasty to her in the past. I often wonder why she posts her at all, unless she truly just enjoys being two shades away from a troll.

I see....I figured as much.

Has she *always* been "janie?"

Interesting that she thinks she knows so much about a board that she hasn't admitted to ever posting on...hmm.....

sounds like a troll to me.

[sarsie1]

The funny thing is that you'd probably agree with a lot of Janie's views, but she gets more satisfaction out of thinking that EVERYONE on this board and EVERYONE on IHMMB all think alike and are against her and her kind.

:lol

Well, you know me pretty well, so I won't argue with you on whether I'd agree *in prinicple* with her views, but her hatefulness and ugliness make me not want to align with her in any way.

[janie]

The funny thing is that you'd probably agree with a lot of Janie's views, but she gets more satisfaction out of thinking that EVERYONE on this board and EVERYONE on IHMMB all think alike and are against her and her kind.Well you DO!!!!

I don't care if you are against me, not at all. It just ends up that way because you all think alike. :p

[HammBugga]

Well, I'm one who wrote on the other board that I didn't care for it here any more (and yes, I came back because I read that IHMMB and a possible influx were being discussed).

Boards change, and people change. I don't feel that I "fit" here now. Oh well. I don't really like raisins, Levis, jazz, or Chryslers either. Different tastes, but that doesn't mean one is better than the other. I don't wish to offend, but I also don't feel as if I owe any apologies.


Saying you don't feel like you fit in anymore is not the same as saying it has "dumbed down" or is too "high school" for you. The latter sounds like insults where as the former can be interpreted as just a new influx of people and not knowing many of them.

[JudyJudyJudy]

I gather the mass exodus was when a bunch of people left and started a new board? Did they leave because of the dumbed down board?
No, that's not why they left. There was already a lot of tension, and then the board owner at the time put up a map without notification that showed people's locations (some quite accurately), and that was the final straw. Of course, he eventually removed the map, but some people were already too pissed to forgive.

I'm curious if the board was dumber before they left and this other place isn't private, how is it that the other board isn't dumbed down too by the same people that were dumbing it down here? Surely there is a variety of intelligence and lack of at this IHMMB. Unless it's like Mensa and they only let people with a certain IQ in. ;)
I won't get into this one.

This is not addressed to you Judy but I also don't get the sense of this board being a house that people can just crash. It's just a place on the internet to post topics. It's not a house, nobody that is just a poster owns it, and if there were 50 new posters, so what? It's not like the people already here cease to exist or could no longer post how they so choose. I'm sure it would change the dynamics traffic wise because this seems like a fairly slow board but I seriously don't get all the drama in the choice to come back here or not. A board is what you make it. If a large group of "intelligent" people came and started posting "intelligent" topics, it would have a majority of intelligent debate and no longer be a dumbed down board no?

Personally I like the influx of new posters on boards even the trolls. I'd get bored stiff talking to the same old people day after day. Even if they were the smartest bananas in the bunch. ;)
As I said, I'm fine with anyone coming back, and I'll add that I'm fine with any new people showing up who want to post. However, I disagree with the "not a house" part. For many, this is their home, and they wouldn't want to feel "pushed out." That's understandable.


I see....I figured as much.

Has she *always* been "janie?"

Interesting that she thinks she knows so much about a board that she hasn't admitted to ever posting on...hmm.....

sounds like a troll to me.
She used to be zanie.


:lol

Well, you know me pretty well, so I won't argue with you on whether I'd agree *in prinicple* with her views, but her hatefulness and ugliness makes me not want to align with her in any way.
I wouldn't, either. There was a time when I welcomed her opposite views to spice up things a bit, but she has become more and more hateful.

[janie]

I see....I figured as much.

Has she *always* been "janie?"

Interesting that she thinks she knows so much about a board that she hasn't admitted to ever posting on...hmm.....

sounds like a troll to me.Boards are all the same, Sarsie. It isn't rocket science.

I think I actually did post there for like a minute. But man, bfdc is like a freakin' diversity workshop compared to that place.

[tata]

Hey tata. :) Good to see you as well.

Believe it or not, I have stalkerishly kept up with some of y'all, or at least tried to.

I haven't done any stalking. What are you up to these days?

[Babyblue]

Well you DO!!!!

I don't care if you are against me, not at all. It just ends up that way because you all think alike. :p



janie there is a decent chance that I am fairly close to you on religion, morals, politics and child raising. I also think extraordinarily unlike many on this board and get my ass chewed for it regularly.

So there are at least several people who think pretty similarly to you. They just have a few ounces of grace and politeness and they at least attempt to post like decent human beings.

[HammBugga]

To be fair, this board was "dumbed down" long before the mass exodus. That issue was discussed on numerous occasions long before the map drama. I remember starting a thread about it years ago, and I remember Blue, among others, posting on the thread.
I agree and remember this as well. I still couldn't help but think I was part of the "problem". I know it's not All About Me™ but it is hard not to take things personally sometimes.

I wish you would quit referring to the site as one entity, rather than hundreds of individuals that all have different opinions.

I would venture a guess that a handful of the IHMMB members think of themselves as the "smart ones" - but that hardly equates to the entire site.
I agree with this as well.

Quick, someone high five me.


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[janie]

janie there is a decent chance that I am fairly close to you on religion, morals, politics and child raising. I also think extraordinarily unlike many on this board and get my ass chewed for it regularly.
So there are at least several people who think pretty similarly to you. They just have a few ounces of grace and politeness and they at least attempt to post like decent human beings.I have noticed that BB and I have learned to appreciate you immensely for that.

[JudyJudyJudy]

I agree and remember this as well. I still couldn't help but think I was part of the "problem". I know it's not All About Me™ but it is hard not to take things personally sometimes.
I don't remember any specific people who made me have that feeling. I just remember that suddenly it seemed as though I was having to search out threads that had debates or discussions and not just fluff.

[sarsie1]

Boards are all the same, Sarsie. It isn't rocket science.

I think I actually did post there for like a minute. But man, bfdc is like a freakin' diversity workshop compared to that place.

So you are saying that IHMMB has become "the board that it left" and "stagnant" based on .... what exactly?

That "boards are all the same?" really?

[sarsie1]

I haven't done any stalking. What are you up to these days?


WELLLLLLL

I am remarried as of April 2008, which I think I did post about here.

I am 35 weeks pregnant with a boy, have Gestational Diabetes again and am on insulin. :( Have had a couple scares with this pregnancy, but things seem okay right now.

My ds1 has been diagnosed PDD-NOS with severe generalized anxiety disorder and I am fighting with the school to get some accommodations for him (and that's as much as I'm willing to say publicly...I'm sure you understand).

My XH has worked a total of 1.5 months since June 2008, and I have seen a total of one month's child support, so things are tight, esp. since due to the pregnancy, issues, doctors, etc., I haven't really been able to work.

My 14-yo sdd moved in with us two months ago and plans to stay with us.

My father had a stroke earlier this month, but it was mild and he is recovering well.

That's my update in life in a nutshell!

[HammBugga]

I don't remember any specific people who made me have that feeling. I just remember that suddenly it seemed as though I was having to search out threads that had debates or discussions and not just fluff.


I think the main issue is the number of posters. There used to be over 200 people viewing the debate board at any time. Now I look at the viewers and it is rarely more than 20. The faster the board, the more topics and the more chance for debate. The debate/discussion ratio is probably the same but it seems a lot lower since the amount of posts has been cut from probably 40 new threads a day to 10-15.

[Annalise]

No, that's not why they left. There was already a lot of tension, and then the board owner at the time put up a map without notification that showed people's locations (some quite accurately), and that was the final straw. Of course, he eventually removed the map, but some people were already too pissed to forgive.


I won't get into this one.


As I said, I'm fine with anyone coming back, and I'll add that I'm fine with any new people showing up who want to post. However, I disagree with the "not a house" part. For many, this is their home, and they wouldn't want to feel "pushed out." That's understandable.





Aw thanks for filling me in. Yikes, showing your location would not be good at all. That is very understandable! Sounds very complicated.

I get that this is home as in a place you are comfortable to post and like to post at, I just don't understand how anyone could push anyone else out. An influx of new posters would just mean more threads and a faster moving board. I don't see how that would push people out. BFDC is not West Side story or some sort of gang turf that people have to claim as their own to post here.

I suppose it would make more sense if there were people that absolutely hated one another and didn't want to come here because of tension but the recurring theme seems to be more about "what type of board" this is or isn't and not really due to personal problems between posters.

[janie]

So you are saying that IHMMB has become "the board that it left" and "stagnant" based on .... what exactly?

That "boards are all the same?" really?Wasn't the whole idea of IHMMB being I hated my message board? I think your owner pretty much hated the message boards over there, too. For whatever reason.

[Justicedog]

Quick, someone high five me.


Can I put this in my sig? :)

[JudyJudyJudy]

Sarsie, I'm sorry you've had so much on your plate. I hope the rest of your pregnancy goes well.


Aw thanks for filling me in. Yikes, showing your location would not be good at all. That is very understandable! Sounds very complicated.

I get that this is home as in a place you are comfortable to post and like to post at, I just don't understand how anyone could push anyone else out. An influx of new posters would just mean more threads and a faster moving board. I don't see how that would push people out. BFDC is not West Side story or some sort of gang turf that people have to claim as their own to post here.

I suppose it would make more sense if there were people that absolutely hated one another and didn't want to come here because of tension but the recurring theme seems to be more about "what type of board" this is or isn't and not really due to personal problems between posters.
It's not a matter of hate. The issue in the past, especially 7-9 years ago, was that some people would intimidate others and make fun of them to the point that they would leave. You might say, "Oh, well, that's their problem," but in reality, bullying on message boards is as real as bullying in real life, if not more so.


Wasn't the whole idea of IHMMB being I hated my message board? I think your owner pretty much hated the message boards over there, too. For whatever reason.
I did have to laugh at this comment.

[Justicedog]

The funny thing is that you'd probably agree with a lot of Janie's views, but she gets more satisfaction out of thinking that EVERYONE on this board and EVERYONE on IHMMB all think alike and are against her and her kind.


I was thinking that too, but didn't want to put Sarsie in that camp.

Glad to see you again Sarsie, I missed you.

[still_me]

I have to admit that it is kinda neat to be able to see other people here. I've heard about a lot of people who left, but I came days before the big huge split.

I am a tad nervous to see how things go. This is my first and only message board. I feel like I am meeting one of my DH's ex-girlfriends or something. We both know him, but nothing about each other. lol

[sarsie1]

Wasn't the whole idea of IHMMB being I hated my message board? I think your owner pretty much hated the message boards over there, too. For whatever reason.

All right, I have to say it--you're a dumbass.

FYI-Tracy had that board, and that name, before we went there, and it was actually unrelated to this board. That is also why the link wasn't posted in threads when people asked, because it did seem to imply that the message board hated was BFDC, and that's not the case.

See how much you know?

[Annalise]

Wasn't the whole idea of IHMMB being I hated my message board? I think your owner pretty much hated the message boards over there, too. For whatever reason.


I didn't know what IHMMB stood for and if the owner is closing it because they didn't like that board, that's hysterical! "lol9"

[sarsie1]

I was thinking that too, but didn't want to put Sarsie in that camp.

Glad to see you again Sarsie, I missed you.

Hi there Justice!! Glad to see you too!!

[Aeonkat]

I am going to enjoy watching sarsie and janie go at it.

[sarsie1]

aw, aeon, I'm sorry!! The kids are getting home and I'm afraid I'm going to have to go...homework and dinner time! Although I have NO idea what I'm going to do for dinner...hmmmm...I need A "What's For Dinnner" thread I guess. I have nothing thawed out! lol

[still_me]

aw, aeon, I'm sorry!! The kids are getting home and I'm afraid I'm going to have to go...homework and dinner time! Although I have NO idea what I'm going to do for dinner...hmmmm...I need A "What's For Dinnner" thread I guess. I have nothing thawed out! lol


:D http://www.breastfeeding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43334

[Candi]

aw, aeon, I'm sorry!! The kids are getting home and I'm afraid I'm going to have to go...homework and dinner time! Although I have NO idea what I'm going to do for dinner...hmmmm...I need A "What's For Dinnner" thread I guess. I have nothing thawed out! lol


LOL, still_me started one today.

[janie]

All right, I have to say it--you're a dumbass.

FYI-Tracy had that board, and that name, before we went there, and it was actually unrelated to this board. That is also why the link wasn't posted in threads when people asked, because it did seem to imply that the message board hated was BFDC, and that's not the case.

See how much you know?Whoa boy. And you called this board dumb...

[still_me]

Screw the popcorn, Quilty I got tequila. It is silver too. yum yum

[BeanBabies]

Perhaps because our members here are just too polite. But I don't think you can assume that every person here will be delighted to have a mass influx of disgruntled former IHMMB members, and that they will all be welcomed with open arms.
I'd almost venture to say you were trying to start shit. "lol9" You sound bitter, but I don't think most of the board is. Why create problems where they most likely don't even exist?

I'm shaking my head at all the over-dramatics both here and at IHMMB.

[Annalise]

It's not a matter of hate. The issue in the past, especially 7-9 years ago, was that some people would intimidate others and make fun of them to the point that they would leave. You might say, "Oh, well, that's their problem," but in reality, bullying on message boards is as real as bullying in real life, if not more so.





7-9 years? Wow, that is a long time to post on message boards with the same people!! No wonder there is lots of undercurrents I'm not seeing on surface of this.

I don't think "oh well" about internet bullying. I think it's totally wrong and a horrible thing to do to anyone. We are real people sitting behind the keyboards and sometimes I think people forget that and it can be more harsh that they ever would be in real life. Which in a way is way worse when there is no accountability for words and can emotionally hurt someone to the same degree as real life emotional bullying..

There is a crucial difference, on the internet you are anon and getting away from it can be as simple as turning off the computer. (If you're smart and you cant' change the situation) In real life it's often going to be someone you know, that you work with, go to school with, or a neighbor, a relative. Not as easy getting away from bullies in those places.

[Sputterduck]

7-9 years? Wow


lol Yes. This is somewhat old for a message board. I've been here nearly 6 years now and I consider myself a middle-ager, not an old-timer like Judy or Tami.

Wait... Where the heck did Tami go?

[Annalise]

Wow there are a lot of guests here right now! LOL Even if they are choosing not to participate they are indeed participating by giving this board a huge audience. ;) Come on, if you're going to lurk and read, why not post since you're here already?

Quick someone post a bunch of controversial topics that will piss people off and draw them out because they won't be able to just stand silent!

[QuiltyConscience]

Screw the popcorn, Quilty I got tequila. It is silver too. yum yum

I got limes, babe.

[BeanBabies]

You stayed because you love this board, even though it was "majorly dumbed down". No, that's not offensive at all.


No kidding. What a stupid and ridiculous thing to say.

[Annalise]

I got limes, babe.


Limes, yum! Now I want a lime daiquiri, anybody got some rum? Preferably my good buddy Captain Morgan.

[BeanBabies]

You weren't here in 2002, you don't know what this board was like then, I didn't say it was dumbed down b/c *you* were here, I said it was dumbed down and it was.
It was dumbed down b/c the speed, quantity and quality of conversation went from 150 mph to 5 mph in a second.
If that offends you, oh well, that's JMO.


Christ, that was 7 years ago. Move on.

[EvilAmy]

I'm going to go buy some Red Bull and make myself a jagerbomb tonight. This is starting to have great potential for a drinking game.


Other than that I think I'm with Beans.

[JudyJudyJudy]

There is a crucial difference, on the internet you are anon and getting away from it can be as simple as turning off the computer. (If you're smart and you cant' change the situation) In real life it's often going to be someone you know, that you work with, go to school with, or a neighbor, a relative. Not as easy getting away from bullies in those places.
Exactly, which means the person has essentially been run away from her "home" if this happens.

[Annalise]

Exactly, which means the person has essentially been run away from her "home" if this happens.

Do you think that is what's going to happen if a bunch of posters from this IHMMB start posting here? Were they bullying people on the current message board?

[BeanBabies]

(reply to Sarsie...)

Oh sheesh.

Potential loss of friendships? Didn't someone send you the new link?

You all marched blindly off to war to some great land and now you are being exhiled. I just find it funny. You're a little miffed, sure, but nobody is taking away your puppy.

Calm down.

And you all are over there calling this board a bunch of uneducated, ignorant hacks... so, there you go. Why don't you come over here and say it to their faces? Oh, because you all only "peek in".

heehee
What's with this "You all..." shit? Your arguments lose steam when you start hurling all-encompassing insults, Love.

[BeanBabies]

So what you're saying is right around the time you showed up, a large group of people began feeling the board was dumbed down? Huh. Odd coincidence.

:roflol

[QuiltyConscience]

I didn't know what IHMMB stood for and if the owner is closing it because they didn't like that board, that's hysterical! "lol9"

Yeah, there is some irony to be found there.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Do you think that is what's going to happen if a bunch of posters from this IHMMB start posting here? Were they bullying people on the current message board?
I don't know. I wasn't posting there. I was simply saying that *I* think people will be welcoming at first, but that could change if they feel run off from their "home" (for whatever reason). Honestly, I think this is a moot discussion anyway since I don't think we'll have a huge influx of posters.

[pawprint]

I can't believe i am going to type this- but janie is not all bad. She has sent me supportive pm's AND said something nice on my house thread. I find her view of the world maddening, but she's more bark than bite. Don't make me do that again mmmmkay? ;)

In addition- janie you're doing it again. where 'everyone' is doing or thinking xyz. I'm not over there weeping and saying my goodbyes. I'm saying exactly what I think even though it's not all that popular. Of course I never left here, so maybe I don't count? IHMMB really doesn't have as many like thinking posters as it appears. Ask Sarsie. ;) Or Even Aeon.

Lastly, I have to go to back to school night for the boys tonight so if we could hold off on the start of the drinking game until roughly 9 pm, I'd really appreciate it. I'd hate to have to start pounding vodka to catch up to you all.

[Coconuts71]

Can I put this in my sig? :)
Only if I can high five you every time I see it!

[BeanBabies]

I am going to enjoy watching sarsie and janie go at it.


A little surreal, eh?

[kasumisniper]

Wow there are a lot of guests here right now! LOL Even if they are choosing not to participate they are indeed participating by giving this board a huge audience. ;) Come on, if you're going to lurk and read, why not post since you're here already?

Quick someone post a bunch of controversial topics that will piss people off and draw them out because they won't be able to just stand silent!


Muwahaha You're devious! I love it!

[pawprint]

A little surreal, eh?
I think I like it. It;s like mtv. I know it's not good for my brain but I just get sucked in.

[BeanBabies]

I like Janie. Always have. But her desire to rile the masses gets on my one good nerve on a rather frequent basis. Enough to make me prefer a papercut to the eyeball, then read yet another of her various diatribes condemning all posters here, there, everywhere and in between.

I agree with a ton of her ideas, but her delivery sucks great big donkey balls.

[kasumisniper]

I've always liked Janie too. Big surprise there huh? ;)

[Babyhellfire]

I am only in here because I heard there was some of that chocolate boy scout popcorn-- then judy made me consider how that supports boy scouts, and maybe I'd be better supporting something like earth scouts.. and then, how such a discussion could have been pages long years ago..

-sigh
anyway, I am glad to see some familiar faces here

[KerryS]

I'd almost venture to say you were trying to start shit. "lol9" You sound bitter, but I don't think most of the board is. Why create problems where they most likely don't even exist?

I'm shaking my head at all the over-dramatics both here and at IHMMB.

I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just saying that it's naive to think all the ex-BFDC members are going to come back here and start posting again, and if they did, they'd all be welcomed by everyone with open arms. It just ain't gonna happen.

[QuiltyConscience]

I don't know. I wasn't posting there. I was simply saying that *I* think people will be welcoming at first, but that could change if they feel run off from their "home" (for whatever reason). Honestly, I think this is a moot discussion anyway since I don't think we'll have a huge influx of posters.

I agree with the mootness. I think we may get a few here and there, but several IHMMB posters have made very clear that they will go "anywhere BUT BFCOM or Sybermoms."

[tata]

WELLLLLLL

I am remarried as of April 2008, which I think I did post about here.

I am 35 weeks pregnant with a boy, have Gestational Diabetes again and am on insulin. :( Have had a couple scares with this pregnancy, but things seem okay right now.

My ds1 has been diagnosed PDD-NOS with severe generalized anxiety disorder and I am fighting with the school to get some accommodations for him (and that's as much as I'm willing to say publicly...I'm sure you understand).

My XH has worked a total of 1.5 months since June 2008, and I have seen a total of one month's child support, so things are tight, esp. since due to the pregnancy, issues, doctors, etc., I haven't really been able to work.

My 14-yo sdd moved in with us two months ago and plans to stay with us.

My father had a stroke earlier this month, but it was mild and he is recovering well.

That's my update in life in a nutshell!
Wow, it's been a while! Congrats on the pregnancy. I'm sorry it has been a tough one, though. Another boy! Have you picked a name yet? And if so, are you willing to share? :D

I'm unfamiliar with PDD-NOS, but I imagine it must be tough. I'm going through an ADHD diagnosis with my DD and it has been... emotional for me. And I certainly understand about the X. I've finally gotten orders for child-support. He's supposed to start paying in October, so we'll see how it goes.

[BeanBabies]

But why try to create a self-fulfilling prophecy? Why not try to foster instead of divide?

[sarsie1]

I can't believe i am going to type this- but janie is not all bad. She has sent me supportive pm's AND said something nice on my house thread. I find her view of the world maddening, but she's more bark than bite. Don't make me do that again mmmmkay? ;)

In addition- janie you're doing it again. where 'everyone' is doing or thinking xyz. I'm not over there weeping and saying my goodbyes. I'm saying exactly what I think even though it's not all that popular. Of course I never left here, so maybe I don't count? IHMMB really doesn't have as many like thinking posters as it appears. Ask Sarsie. ;) Or Even Aeon.

Lastly, I have to go to back to school night for the boys tonight so if we could hold off on the start of the drinking game until roughly 9 pm, I'd really appreciate it. I'd hate to have to start pounding vodka to catch up to you all.

SHEW! I know that's right!

[JudyJudyJudy]

But why try to create a self-fulfilling prophecy? Why not try to foster instead of divide?
Unfortunately, I think the division occurred quite some time ago.

[sarsie1]

Wow, it's been a while! Congrats on the pregnancy. I'm sorry it has been a tough one, though. Another boy! Have you picked a name yet? And if so, are you willing to share? :D

I'm unfamiliar with PDD-NOS, but I imagine it must be tough. I'm going through an ADHD diagnosis with my DD and it has been... emotional for me. And I certainly understand about the X. I've finally gotten orders for child-support. He's supposed to start paying in October, so we'll see how it goes.

Thanks girl. PDD-NOS is an autism-spectrum disorder. IMO, it's kind of what they give you when they think there's an ASD there but can't quite identify it as Aspergers or Autism. With ds1, she said he is PDD-NOS "with Aspergers features" and said that ultimately he may end up with an Aspergers diagnosis...so we'll wait and see. In the end, he's very high-functioning, but he does have some pretty significant issues that need to be accommodated (sensory overload, anxiety, fine motor skill delays, things like that).

I hope your dd gets whatever help she needs, and I hope you DO start getting some child support. It isn't all that much, but man, it can sure help when it pays the car payment, you know?

I believe we are going to name this little guy David Alexander. David after my father. It breaks from my 3-syllable first followed by 2-syllable second name, though! lol Still, it will be the last boy born to my father as a grandfather (my brother is done and I'm having my tubes tied), and I figure out of FIVE boys, he deserves one to be named after him.

[tata]

Papercuts on eyeballs makes tata cringe. Please don't, Bean!!!

Thanks girl. PDD-NOS is an autism-spectrum disorder. IMO, it's kind of what they give you when they think there's an ASD there but can't quite identify it as Aspergers or Autism. With ds1, she said he is PDD-NOS "with Aspergers features" and said that ultimately he may end up with an Aspergers diagnosis...so we'll wait and see. In the end, he's very high-functioning, but he does have some pretty significant issues that need to be accommodated (sensory overload, anxiety, fine motor skill delays, things like that).

I hope your dd gets whatever help she needs, and I hope you DO start getting some child support. It isn't all that much, but man, it can sure help when it pays the car payment, you know?

I believe we are going to name this little guy David Alexander. David after my father. It breaks from my 3-syllable first followed by 2-syllable second name, though! lol Still, it will be the last boy born to my father as a grandfather (my brother is done and I'm having my tubes tied), and I figure out of FIVE boys, he deserves one to be named after him.

I have no idea if child support will help 'cause I've NEVER gotten it from him. I told DH to not count on it! "lol9" If I see it 6 months in a row, then I may exhale.

Thanks for explaining PDD-NOS to me. It sounds complex, but that your DS has some issues that can finally be addressed. I swear, getting the problem areas isolated can be the biggest headache out of the whole ordeal. I'll be so glad when that part is over for us. As an aside, I think I suffer from sensory overload. I keep forgetting about it (because I also suffer from weird brain fog).

I love that name! :) I hope you stick around, 'cause I'd love to see some pictures of him when he comes. Eep - 5 weeks!!! That's gonna fly by!

[janie]

I can't believe i am going to type this- but janie is not all bad. She has sent me supportive pm's AND said something nice on my house thread. I find her view of the world maddening, but she's more bark than bite. Don't make me do that again mmmmkay? ;)

In addition- janie you're doing it again. where 'everyone' is doing or thinking xyz. I'm not over there weeping and saying my goodbyes. I'm saying exactly what I think even though it's not all that popular. Of course I never left here, so maybe I don't count? IHMMB really doesn't have as many like thinking posters as it appears. Ask Sarsie. ;) Or Even Aeon.

Lastly, I have to go to back to school night for the boys tonight so if we could hold off on the start of the drinking game until roughly 9 pm, I'd really appreciate it. I'd hate to have to start pounding vodka to catch up to you all.You're not so bad, yourself. But you already knew that!

I actually admire anyone that posts over there who also posts here or never went there. I don't know why, but it's just nice to see some individuality every once in a while. I often have seen threads like "Where is such and such" when they know darn good and well they are still at bfdc, but because of some weird sheepy mentality, they couldn't come back over here and say hello to them.

Then anyone who admits to reading over here has to act all excuse-like as if they got close enough, but didn't actually cross any borders.

It's just dumb. And most of them won't come back over here and I'm sure there are various reasons. Whatever drove them to follow the piper, keeps them in piperland for always.

And AGAIN, not that there's anything wrong with that. Until you realize that you look like a bunch of rats.

Sarsie seems like maybe she is not a rat.

[QuiltyConscience]

Sarsie seems like maybe she is not a rat.

I don't know exactly why that's funny but it is.

FWIW I am more convinced than you are that Sarsie is indeed, not a rat.

[pawprint]

I'm back. My kid's teachers are awesome. the phils just hit back to back triples and they are looking like they are going to clinch the division tonight. I've got a screwdriver (the vodka one) in my left hand. let the games begin.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Paw, quit counting your chickens and clean your nasty box instead!

[tata]

I object. I have a presentation to work on and if I find even the smallest excuse to procrastinate, I will. :p

[still_me]

I'm back. My kid's teachers are awesome. the phils just hit back to back triples and they are looking like they are going to clinch the division tonight. I've got a screwdriver (the vodka one) in my left hand. let the games begin.


hmmm. The screw driver sounds awesome. If I wasn't ready to pass out I'd have a drink with you.

Very cool about your kid's teachers too.

[pawprint]

Paw, quit counting your chickens and clean your nasty box instead!


Braves are losing five to nothing... what?

[JudyJudyJudy]

Braves are losing five to nothing... what?
They'll come back, and/or the Phils will lose, damn it!

[still_me]

Paw, quit counting your chickens and clean your nasty box instead!


I don't think it is nice to call Paw's box nasty. I mean I get that this thread has a lot of people all riled up, but lets leave everyone's Lady out of it.

[pawprint]

They'll come back, and/or the Phils will lose, damn it!


It's 8 to 3 in the bottom of the sixth. they're at home. And they are on FIRE. No chance mama. No chance.

[janie]

WHAT is wrong with Braves' fans anyway? The other day, they were only 2 games out of the wildcard and there was nobody at their stadium watching the game.

That is pathetic. Just pathetic.

[pawprint]

WHAT is wrong with Braves' fans anyway? The other day, they were only 2 games out of the wildcard and there was nobody at their stadium watching the game.

That is pathetic. Just pathetic.

My brother lives in orlando and drove down for rays playoff games last year. It was practically barren. I don't think normal people care as much as we do... lol. You and I, we are both fans of teams where the fans are practically the tenth man in the lineup.

[Justicedog]

hmm, I just popped in at IHMMB and it was like a trip down memory lane. I didn't realize how many folks I missed. I do hope lots show back up here, but then, I've probably overstayed too long on bf.com.

[still_me]

hmm, I just popped in at IHMMB and it was like a trip down memory lane. I didn't realize how many folks I missed. I do hope lots show back up here, but then, I've probably overstayed too long on bf.com.


What do you mean by this, JD?

[PilotswifePA]

PilotswifePA, I recently thought of you when I ordered my books from the intartoobz. *wave* Hi!

It's good to see you, TryAgain and chicka and sarsie. You, too, Coconuts. *high five*


Hey Tata...I was just thinking of you the other day, too..how ironic is that :)
How's school going for you..are you close to being done?

[Justicedog]

I've not breastfed for over 5 years.

[JudyJudyJudy]

It's 8 to 3 in the bottom of the sixth. they're at home. And they are on FIRE. No chance mama. No chance.
LOL, you know I'm not a big baseball fan anyway. :p


hmm, I just popped in at IHMMB and it was like a trip down memory lane. I didn't realize how many folks I missed. I do hope lots show back up here, but then, I've probably overstayed too long on bf.com.
I read one of the threads over there today, and it was depressing to me. Maybe it's because I'm already in the dumps, but it got to me a bit.

[tata]

Hey Tata...I was just thinking of you the other day, too..how ironic is that :)
How's school going for you..are you close to being done?

Actually, I just went back this semester after being on an almost-4-year hiatus. And I'm totally exasperated right now! I had a quiz yesterday, an exam today and a presentation to prep for Friday, plus tomorrow is DD's 11th birthday, it's a long weekend and the X's family is coming in town. EEEEP! I had to tell me job that I needed the next two weeks off so I could catch up from missing ONE class last week (due to an icky cough & mild fever) and so I can get to the lab next week when it reopens. Whew.

How about you? What are you taking? Or did you graduate?

[still_me]

I've not breastfed for over 5 years.


Ah, I see. I do hope you plan on sticking around even if it is just here and there. You bring a lot to the table, IMO.

[Justicedog]

Thanks StillMe

[KerryS]

JD, do you really think you need to be a breastfeeder to post here? I certainly don't.

[JudyJudyJudy]

JD, do you really think you need to be a breastfeeder to post here? I certainly don't.
Nor do I. We have and have had posters who aren't even parents.

[PilotswifePA]

Actually, I just went back this semester after being on an almost-4-year hiatus. And I'm totally exasperated right now! I had a quiz yesterday, an exam today and a presentation to prep for Friday, plus tomorrow is DD's 11th birthday, it's a long weekend and the X's family is coming in town. EEEEP! I had to tell me job that I needed the next two weeks off so I could catch up from missing ONE class last week (due to an icky cough & mild fever) and so I can get to the lab next week when it reopens. Whew.

How about you? What are you taking? Or did you graduate?

I am hoping to graduate in May...I'm so so glad. I'm tired of school and ready to be done. I have three classes this 8 weeks: Government, Auditing 2, and Taxation 2. Thankfully, I only have 2 1/2 weeks left. I get a week or so break and then have 2 more classes the next 8 weeks. I'm ready to have my evenings free to read for fun or watch a movie. I should be doing a discussion board post right now...see how bad I procrastinate?

[tata]

I don't breastfeed anymore, either. But I'm proud we made it 30 months :)

[tata]

I am hoping to graduate in May...I'm so so glad. I'm tired of school and ready to be done. I have three classes this 8 weeks: Government, Auditing 2, and Taxation 2. Thankfully, I only have 2 1/2 weeks left. I get a week or so break and then have 2 more classes the next 8 weeks. I'm ready to have my evenings free to read for fun or watch a movie. I should be doing a discussion board post right now...see how bad I procrastinate?

I should be working on that presentation. But I don't wanna!!!

Graduating in May - that's awesome! I may graduate in May, too. May 2011. "lol9"

I'm taking American Lit, Anthropology, Geography and Philosophy. Your Taxation class sounds like a ginormous headache!

[RaisingThemLeft]

Saying you don't feel like you fit in anymore is not the same as saying it has "dumbed down" or is too "high school" for you. The latter sounds like insults where as the former can be interpreted as just a new influx of people and not knowing many of them.

I made one of the "high school" comments. I've stayed here the whole time and been dissappointed within the past year or so with the quantity and quality of the debates. I attribute that to steady waves of newer, younger posters. Sorry if that offends. I've started to notice a lot of text message type posting.

[RaisingThemLeft]

Originally this board was truly a "debate/discussion" forum. You could seldom come to the board without either learning something, being intimidated, or both. However, over the years it became fluffier and fluffier. I personally liked it somewhere in the middle (a combination of debate and friendship), but I've stayed regardless.

Yes, exactly.

[Babyhellfire]

JD, do you really think you need to be a breastfeeder to post here? I certainly don't.

Not JD, but I get it.

I don't--- but I do feel like I need to be a breastfeeder.

My daughter weaned, and I don't plan on having more- I am not pregnant, or nursing- I am far from an expert in either subject, I was never even a member of LLL.. .. my BTDT advice feels dated 90% of the time and dd is only 4.
...I do sometimes feel out of place that I don't relate in that way , or contribute that way with posters here anymore.
Not that every other poster here is in that part of their life or expected to be, nor every topic here about that- I just understand that feeling.

[Justicedog]

I don't know. I think I've been in funk. Maybe I'm feeling old and a bit jealous of the younger folks. :)

While I was committed to bfing, and it was one of the toughest things I ever did, I never really "enjoyed" it.

I'm sorry for derailing this thread, I didn't intend to do so. I wasn't expecting to feel sad by going down memory lane with the IHMMB posters.

[Justicedog]

Not JD, but I get it.

I don't--- but I do feel like I need to be a breastfeeder.

My daughter weaned, and I don't plan on having more- I am not pregnant, or nursing- I am far from an expert in either subject, I was never even a member of LLL.. .. my BTDT advice feels dated 90% of the time and dd is only 4.
...I do sometimes feel out of place that I don't relate in that way , or contribute that way with posters here anymore.
Not that every other poster here is in that part of their life or expected to be, nor every topic here about that- I just understand that feeling.


Yeah - this a lot.

[tata]

I agree about BFing being super-tough. I never much enjoyed it, either. Which is weird that I feel sad about having weaned DS completely only weeks ago.

And I hardly feel like you've derailed the thread, JD. Sometimes threads just evolve or turn 180.

[still_me]

I don't know. I think I've been in funk. Maybe I'm feeling old and a bit jealous of the younger folks. :)

While I was committed to bfing, and it was one of the toughest things I ever did, I never really "enjoyed" it.

I'm sorry for derailing this thread, I didn't intend to do so. I wasn't expecting to feel sad by going down memory lane with the IHMMB posters.

I've never known anyone to completely enjoy breastfeeding. I'd like to shake the hand of someone who did/does though. You haven't derailed this thread at all, JD. It has had many sidetracks, and I welcome those more than what this thread could have become.



These "younger" folks/people comments are starting to make me feel weird. Do I fall into that category? And someone who has been here for 10 years, and is 35 now, started off at 25...Do they feel that they've dumb up the boards then?

As for the whole "lack of debate" stuff, people really feel that there isn't quality discussions here? What is missing the name calling? I don't get it...or maybe I am dumb. ;)

ETA: And I am not looking at any "there, there..you are wonderful" pats on the head either. I am genuinely curious as to what people "miss". Is it the lack of quantity of the debates that bothers some? Is it that some who would have been backed up more from the posters who left feel that the value of debates has gone down?

[pawprint]

I have a tiny little beef with the 'younger' comments. My guess is I'm younger than everyone who has mentioned that. Probably a lot younger in some cases. But my kids are big, weaned, and the place I am in my life isn't so dissimilar from those of you that feel like the board has gotten too young.

I was 21 when i started posting here, and i don't think anyone ever thought of me as 'too young'. in fact, there were many times people were shocked by how old i was. Young does not have to mean dumb. ;)

[JudyJudyJudy]

I'm old.

[Sputterduck]

How old are you paw?

[still_me]

Not to sound odd, but I am glad the "younger" comments aren't making only me feel self conscious. I started to feel weird about feeling self conscious too. I apparently do need that drink.

[Sputterduck]

I'm old.


You make me feel young and I rather appreciate it. :p

[pawprint]

How old are you paw?


28

[MrsKitty]

I am glad someone else said it first. They were bothering me too, but I didn't want to run around dumbing up the boards by complaining about it.

[still_me]

I am glad someone else said it first. They were bothering me too, but I didn't want to run around dumbing up the boards by complaining about it.


lol

ETA:

Paw, you are a year older than me.

[tata]

I'm 32. Today, that feels old. Yesterday, it felt ancient. But last weekend, it felt like much younger. Tomorrow scares me. I'm taking 11 a lot harder than I took 10 (DD's birthday).

I'm also college-educated. I'm in college with predominantly fresh-outta-high-school types. (Talk about makin' a girl feel old!)

I'm gonna hafta say that I think all these references to being "dumb" are offensive; even if it's not meant specifically for me, it reflects on me as a member of this forum. Of course, I've been here sporadically for 2.5 years, so I have no real virtual-life experience of what this measure of "smart" is for here to which some keep referring.

[Justicedog]

I'm not equating young with dumb. What I'm seeing is people with their lives in front of them rather than behind as I feel mine is. That's what I'm meaning when I'm saying I'm not feeling like I'm fitting in with the younger folks here. There's not even a chance of me having another baby and talking about bfing.

[pawprint]

Judy darling- the Braves lost, the Phils won and all is right with the world.

[tata]

There's not even a chance of me having another baby and talking about bfing.
I'm not having more kids, either. But if I can help someone else get through the BFing years in some way, I'll try.

[Sputterduck]

Paw, you are a year older than me.


Dang it! I feel old again. I'm 29. :(

[Babyhellfire]

Hell, I am 26 . I am considered one of the younger posters... but I also understand the otherside of feeling like I am at a different place in my life, and don't relate as well to many of the posters here anymore.

Right now , there is more than a lack of debate here, there is a lack of everything. All Boards have seemed SLOW to me. Which leaves us with mostly breastfeeding questions .

I have always bristled at the lack of debate, discussion whines.
A board is what you as a member bring to it. .. its hard to listen to someone complain about a board you contribute to and not take a bit of offense
, and it seems like the person complaining could always contribute to affect that vibe.

I don't even know what I am getting at,here this post reads so circularly.
this fence must be hurting my butt.

[still_me]

Dang it! I feel old again. I'm 29. :(


Bah. You are two years older than me. That is not a huge leap.

[Sputterduck]

Bah. You are two years older than me. That is not a huge leap.


When you're about to hit 30, every second counts. I cried when I turned 10 though. I hate getting older.

[Justicedog]

30 wasn't bad for me, neither was 35 - just a twinge. I think 40 will be pretty difficult though, and I didn't expect that.

[steelady]

30 wasn't bad for me, neither was 35 - just a twinge. I think 40 will be pretty difficult though, and I didn't expect that.


30 kicked my butt. 40 is looming, but it doesn't feel the same. I'm almost looking forward to it.

[MrsKitty]

Steel! You are back! Nice to see your face around here again:) I missed your posts.

[dalurker]

What's with this "You all..." shit? Your arguments lose steam when you start hurling all-encompassing insults, Love.


I like Janie. Always have. But her desire to rile the masses gets on my one good nerve on a rather frequent basis. Enough to make me prefer a papercut to the eyeball, then read yet another of her various diatribes condemning all posters here, there, everywhere and in between.

I agree with a ton of her ideas, but her delivery sucks great big donkey balls.

I agree with this. I don't dislike her, but I tend to largely dismiss her, not because I can't hack different views, but because of what I consider trollish behavior. I don't think it's trollish to speak one's mind or go against the majority. It's the constant on and on and on and on accusation that everyone who isn't her is some mindless drone incapable of reason. Yeah, the "you all" crap. It makes me tune out much of what she has to say because it feels like when I do stop to take a minute to see what she's talking about, it has to do with some claim of herd mentality.


We have and have had posters who aren't even parents.

I never left here during/after the split and have posted on both boards all along with no problem. I'll admit that I do sometimes feel a lot out of place posting on a breastfeeding board since I am not a parent and have never been a breastfeeding mom. Every once in a great while, someone will imply that there's something inherently wrong with a non-breastfeeding person posting on a breastfeeding forum. It's usually directed at a man and it has been a long time since I've seen it ("and why is a man posting on a breastfeeding forum anyway?"), but it still leaves an impression of impropriety even though I do know better.