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JudyJudyJudy
09-30-2009, 02:36 PM
http://www.klewtv.com/news/local/61286912.html

Mercury limits suspended for H1N1 vaccine to improve access

By KLEW Web Staff

OLYMPIA - State health officials are taking steps to ensure Washington residents at highest risk for H1N1 (swine flu) infection have broad access to the new vaccine when it's available.

In a news release, officials said Secretary of Health Mary Selecky is temporarily suspending Washington's limit on the amount of mercury (thimerosal) allowed in H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine given to pregnant women and children under three.

"It's vital to be sure everyone in a high risk group has the choice to be vaccinated when swine flu vaccine becomes available," said Secretary Selecky. "Mercury-free H1N1 vaccine may not always be in stock, and we want to be sure there are no barriers to protecting people."

The six-month suspension is effective through March 23, 2010 and applies only to H1N1 (swine flu) vaccines now being developed. As a precaution, Washington state law limits the amount of mercury that can be in vaccines for pregnant women and children under three. The secretary of health can suspend the law when there's a shortage of vaccine or during a disease outbreak - both criteria apply to the H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine. Supplies of mercury-free vaccine will be limited, which may stop people in these groups who want the vaccine from getting it.

H1N1 vaccination is voluntary. Pregnant women and children under three are at the top of the list to get the vaccine because they're at high risk for serious complications from swine flu.

"We believe suspending the law allows health care providers to offer their patients as many choices as possible to protect themselves against H1N1," said Cindy Markus, MD, President of the Washington State Medical Association.

When the limits are suspended, the law requires that pregnant or lactating women and parents or guardians of children under 18 be told they're getting a vaccine containing more mercury than is usually permitted. There is no specific notification method required; most patients will get a handout to read.

The mercury in vaccines is in a preservative called thimerosal. It's been used safely for years to prevent contamination of vaccines in vials that contain more than one dose. Except for some types of flu vaccines, all vaccines routinely recommended for children under six years of age are thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts.

While some people are concerned about the safety of thimerosal, many large, thorough studies have shown no harm caused by thimerosal in vaccines.

Federal health officials expect H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine to be available in early October. Although there will eventually be enough vaccine for everyone, supplies will be limited at first and will likely be reserved for high risk people.

People are encouraged to check with their private health care provider, public health clinics, retail pharmacies, and community vaccination event organizers on locations to get the vaccine. State and local health partners are working together to identify these locations and will share that information when vaccine is available.

More information: http://www.doh.wa.gov/h1n1/

Sputterduck
09-30-2009, 02:41 PM
Nice.

AuLait
09-30-2009, 02:58 PM
Yep, one reason why none of us will be vax'd. Even my sister who is a nurse and at high risk is refusing (and she had to jump through 100 hoops and got a LOT of flack for it).

Sputterduck
09-30-2009, 06:04 PM
It's funny how their attempt at getting more people vaxed is going to get lots of people to refuse the vax.

steelady
09-30-2009, 09:12 PM
I don't get it. Why does allowing more mercury make the vaccine more accessible?

I would be terrified if I were pregnant because I would think I would be faced with making a choice between bad and bad.

Sputterduck
09-30-2009, 09:19 PM
Hi steel!

steelady
09-30-2009, 09:20 PM
Hey, there.

leosmommy
09-30-2009, 09:28 PM
No one in my family is getting poked. (at least not in that way ;) )

KatieLou
09-30-2009, 09:40 PM
lol Leosmommy. i ahve to admit I am struggling STILL with this. DD has already gotten the regular flu shot, DS was sick so he has not gotten it yet. I have never had the regular flu shot before. My doc is highly reccomending that I get the swine flu vax when it comes out stating that it can be very hard on pregnant women.

With the swime flu and regular flus going so stinkin strong here I have to admit Iam begining to be a wee bit terrified of both flus. At the same time even though we are delayed vaxers I am not crazy about get a brand spankin new vax for any of my kiddos, including the one in my belly. This thing Judy posted scares me like crazy!

steelady
09-30-2009, 09:50 PM
We did the nasal flu vax for ds; we did that last year as well. for some reason, I thought that would be better than no vax and not as tough on him as the shot. Since we've been doing the bio-med interventions with him, we have chosen to stop all vaccines-he was fully vax'd until 4.

I want to get a better handle on his physical issues before we decide on vaccinations

FTR-ds has autism and he has some known food sensitivities/physical issues that suggest he has problems with his immune system. I don't feel vaccines have "caused" his autism, but I'm not positive they haven't contributed to its severity.

JudyJudyJudy
09-30-2009, 11:03 PM
I don't get it. Why does allowing more mercury make the vaccine more accessible?

I would be terrified if I were pregnant because I would think I would be faced with making a choice between bad and bad.
I don't totally understand it, but I'll explain what I think it means: Basically, they didn't make that many vaxes without mercury. The ones with mercury contain more mercury than is "considered safe" for pregnant women and children under age three.


We did the nasal flu vax for ds; we did that last year as well. for some reason, I thought that would be better than no vax and not as tough on him as the shot. Since we've been doing the bio-med interventions with him, we have chosen to stop all vaccines-he was fully vax'd until 4.

I want to get a better handle on his physical issues before we decide on vaccinations

FTR-ds has autism and he has some known food sensitivities/physical issues that suggest he has problems with his immune system. I don't feel vaccines have "caused" his autism, but I'm not positive they haven't contributed to its severity.
I believe that vaxes contributed to Jacob's allergies as well as to his sensory issues (and possibly to a few other issues). I believe that chemicals in the environment in general pose problems for those of us who have immune system and/or metabolic problems.

steelady
09-30-2009, 11:06 PM
Hey, Judy, I would suggest you read a book "Changing the Course of Autism"

it goes into a lot of that and has some suggestions about diet/suppliments from a doctor's perspective. I found it a tough, but interesting read. I know Jacob isn't autistic, but it seems like he has a lot of the same physical issues.

It's on google books as a limited preview

http://books.google.com/books?id=BP86uPB3bi8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=&f=false

steelady
09-30-2009, 11:07 PM
I guess I don't understand why mercury is in vaccines to begin with. I'm not a biology person, though.

Babyblue
09-30-2009, 11:07 PM
I am starting to wonder if ds and I have one or the other forms of flu. if this is as bad as it gets (fingers crossed) then I find the thought of actualy getting the shot laughable.

I havent gotten a flu shot in my life, if I was to get one it would be the nasel for ds and the non mercury one for me.

JudyJudyJudy
09-30-2009, 11:23 PM
Hey, Judy, I would suggest you read a book "Changing the Course of Autism"

it goes into a lot of that and has some suggestions about diet/suppliments from a doctor's perspective. I found it a tough, but interesting read. I know Jacob isn't autistic, but it seems like he has a lot of the same physical issues.

It's on google books as a limited preview

http://books.google.com/books?id=BP86uPB3bi8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=&f=false
I'll check out that book. I've read a couple of other books on autism, and a lot of the issues are indeed the same. One of the books is Healing the New Childhood Epidemics: Autism, ADHD, Asthma, and Allergies: The Groundbreaking Program for the 4-A Disorders (http://www.amazon.com/Healing-New-Childhood-Epidemics-Groundbreaking/dp/0345494504). It's amazing how much the 4-A disorders have in common. Another book that I actually bought for myself to try to deal with my yeast allergy is Feast Without Yeast: 4 Stages to Better Health : A Complete Guide to Implementing Yeast Free, Wheat (Gluten) Free and Milk (Casein) Free Living (http://www.amazon.com/Feast-Without-Yeast-Complete-Implementing/dp/0967005701/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254370874&sr=1-11). You might find those books interesting as well.


I guess I don't understand why mercury is in vaccines to begin with. I'm not a biology person, though.
All I know is that it's used as a preservative. I'm guessing, though I don't really know, that it's cheaper than other preservatives.

Crabbie
09-30-2009, 11:27 PM
We wont be getting any flu shots here.