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JulieBaby
10-18-2009, 10:38 PM
...yes I know this is flame worthy, but read everything first.

There is this dog a few miles down who has been hit by a car at least twice. His back legs are horribly broken and are facing backward. The only way he can get around is by dragging his back legs around. They are a bloody mess and from what ive been able to see they are getting infected.

I called the H.A and they say that they will not pick up the dog and if I bring him in I can be charged with animal cruelty. The vets will not make a 'home'visit to euthanize the dog.

Anyway, my question is: Is there any method that can be used to end his suffering? Poor dog, I cry everytime I see him dragging himself around and no one seems to care!

Sputterduck
10-18-2009, 10:50 PM
It's not your dog, right?

JudyJudyJudy
10-18-2009, 10:54 PM
I'm not understanding why the Humane Society (or your equivalent there) won't do anything about the poor dog. (Then again, I do remember seeing all the pitiful strays when I was in PR.)

Crabbie
10-18-2009, 11:32 PM
What about the pound? or the police. That is animal cruelty.

Jonquil
10-19-2009, 12:39 AM
Where I live, the humane society/police won't do anything about stray dogs unless they're vicious. You can't even lie and say that the dog came after you/someone else because they'll demand to see the wounds and if none are present, they'll charge you with filing a false report. So, even if the dog acts vicious, but hasn't actually attacked anyone, they won't do a thing.

Do you know anyone who's a veterinarian or involved in raising animals/livestock? They might be able to help. If they won't come out and do anything themselves, maybe they could tell you what to do.

Ma_Whit
10-19-2009, 01:03 AM
Where are you located? (Feel free to PM.) There may be an aniaml rescue organization that can help, and I'd be willing to send a call out to my networks.

hidesome
10-19-2009, 03:48 AM
A bullet works. I've seen people slit wounded animal's throats, but that is a bloody mess and is harder than it sounds. Gas works, but is kinda slow and may be dangerous to you. A club or axe works, but takes some intestinal fortitude and is in the same category as cutting throats; easier said than done. My advice - go with the bullet.

Crabbie
10-19-2009, 04:57 AM
As soon as I saw that Hidesome had posted on this thread I knew what his answer was going to be. It is the same thing my hubs would say.

ima062002
10-19-2009, 09:03 AM
Can you get someone to shoot it? I can't get that poor dog out of my mind. It unconceivable to me that nobody would do anything about it, *especially* the Humane Society. Doesn't the pound have to come to pick up a stray if you report it? And wouldn't they kill it if they saw the shape it is in?

Jonquil
10-19-2009, 09:22 AM
Unless she lives out in the country, she/whoever shot it would get in trouble. They would likely be ticketed with discharging a firearm and possibly also cruelty to animals for shooting it at all. This is why people where I live have resorted to lying and saying the dog has attacked someone; they don't see any other option and they know it's just a matter of time before the dog *does* attack someone. (In the cases here, it was more a matter of them being vicious than sick.)

But that doesn't work, either, like I said above.

There was a case here where a child was killed by two dogs after people had called to complain about the dogs several times and the humane society refused to come pick them up.

That still didn't change anything.

I was thinking that someone who's a veterinarian or involved in raising animals/livestock might be able to recommend some sort of drug that would put the dog out of its misery without being too painful. The poor dog's life has to be hell and it sucks that nothing can be done about it through the proper channels. But a drug could be placed in food and no one would have to know that the OP had given the dog the food.

3girls2luv
10-19-2009, 09:36 AM
:( poor dog. I have no advice I just hope someone takes this poor dog out of his misery soon.

dalurker
10-19-2009, 11:35 AM
This is so weird. I read a story recently (I can't for the life of me remember where) about a dog that had been hit by a car and the driver tried to end the dog's misery by whacking on him with a machete and a hammer. The dog's owner saw this and grabbed the weapons and started whacking on the driver. The dog owner is charged with something like assault or maybe even attempted murder or some such thing, and the driver is being charged with animal cruelty.

I wish I could remember where I read it; it's only been in the last few days and this thread is eerily similar to how that played out.

In addition to some of the earlier suggestions, I would call around to various vet clinics and plead the case for a nearby vet to go out and kill it. My vet would probably do something like that.

Poor dog. :(

HammBugga
10-19-2009, 11:39 AM
Is it a stray dog then? If it isn't and you can figure out who the owner is you can report them for animal cruelty. If it is a stray I would try and find a way to shoot it without getting caught. That is assuming there are no rescue groups or any other option.

Flutterby
10-19-2009, 01:02 PM
Is there any way you could catch it and take it into the vet yourself? How sad :(

RaisingThemLeft
10-19-2009, 01:14 PM
Poor dog. Honestly, shooting it was what came to my mind as well. Seems the humane thing to do.

Candi
10-19-2009, 01:37 PM
Well, how about picking the dog up and taking it out to the country to shoot it?

You could do something like dog food with antifreeze, but I don't know how much that would make the dog suffer.

newbie
10-19-2009, 02:21 PM
How big is the dog? I would say a bullet, or a couple of Tylenol, 2 tylenol will kill a small dog, so if it's big I would do more, poor dog I hate to hear about animals suffering. I picked up a beaten starved stray, brought him home and fed him, and then he ran off:(

newbie
10-19-2009, 02:21 PM
Anti-freeze is an awful thing to do to a dog, they suffer terribly:(

dalurker
10-19-2009, 02:59 PM
Yeah, antifreeze causes renal failure which isn't especially fast and is pretty miserable. It would be compounding misery, but then so would drugging like Tylenol. The poor creature is already likely in agony and I think the humane thing to do would be something instantaneous. It brings tears to my eyes to think about an animal left to suffer like that. If he's in that bad shape, I really hope he has gone somewhere by now and closed his eyes and gone.

StillSingingMom
10-19-2009, 04:30 PM
I'd call a vet and ask. A local vet might feel badly enough about it to drop by and deal with it without admitting anything.

In our area, shooting the dog would bring the police and charges for illegal discharge of a firearm.

Oral meds of any kind may not actually get into the poor animal's system quickly enough to relieve suffering or kill the poor thing.

KatieLou
10-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Poor dog. Honestly, shooting it was what came to my mind as well. Seems the humane thing to do.


I agree. If you do pick up the dog and take it out inthe country to shoot it, as someone suggested, be very careful. Even a very friendly dog will have a tendancy to bite when hurt. Poor thing.

JudyJudyJudy
10-19-2009, 05:37 PM
While I agree that shooting the dog would probably be the most humane thing to do, she would likely be arrested for doing it if she got caught.

Rizzae2
10-19-2009, 06:33 PM
why would they charge with criminal when you found the dog in that state and you didnt do it to him? i dont like that. you get charged for helping.

Justicedog
10-19-2009, 07:13 PM
Where are you? I cannot believe that any civilized country would not have some mechanism to help suffering animals.

Sputterduck
10-19-2009, 07:16 PM
Where are you? I cannot believe that any civilized country would not have some mechanism to help suffering animals.


I'm pretty sure they don't in Mexico. I could post some sad pictures.

Amy_G_
10-19-2009, 08:17 PM
Since you are in Puerto Rico, I cannot imagine what your answer is going to be. If you were in the US I'd tell you to call the local police, human society, rescue organization and the newspaper/tv station and eventually someone would do something.

If you run over, shoot, transport the dog elsewhere to shoot, drug, poison or otherwise mess with the dog, it's likely that 1. you'll get bit (hurting animals bite), or 2. someone will see you and report you for animal abuse.

I would call the human society every day until someone does something. If the dog gets into the road, I would call the police and report a traffic obstruction. I dont' think you are going to get a vet to make a house call to put a stray dog out of it's misery.

KerryS
10-19-2009, 09:42 PM
I'm pretty sure they don't in Mexico. I could post some sad pictures.


Puerto Penasco (south of AZ) used to have a horrible stray dog problem, but a lot of American ex-pats live there now, and there are shelters now, as well as vehicles that go around and round up the strays.

Sputterduck
10-19-2009, 10:04 PM
Puerto Penasco (south of AZ) used to have a horrible stray dog problem, but a lot of American ex-pats live there now, and there are shelters now, as well as vehicles that go around and round up the strays.


That's good. Where I went, there is no electricity or even water except what is delivered sometimes, so there aren't anything like shelters for animals.

tata
10-19-2009, 10:31 PM
Drowning.

And damn, that fuckin' sucks to suggest.

Poor thing. :(

Nipple_nectar
10-19-2009, 11:05 PM
I think you are living in the US, yes? Me personally, I would lure the dog into my vehicle with some food and get him medical treatment, fuck it. Who cares what happens next?

Are we really debating this while some dog drags himself around on two bloody stumps? WTF?

QuiltyConscience
10-19-2009, 11:57 PM
I think you are living in the US, yes? Me personally, I would lure the dog into my vehicle with some food and get him medical treatment, fuck it. Who cares what happens next?

Are we really debating this while some dog drags himself around on two bloody stumps? WTF?

To be fair, the OP has tried going through the proper channels to help the dog, and it seems as though the proper channels aren't interested. It isn't always that easy to just say" fuck it, who cares what happens next."So she asked here for ideas.

Around here, someone would most likely shoot the dog and if an the police showed up, explain to the officer why and it would be over with. Not so in other places. You could get yourself in a whole mess of legal trouble and arrested in other places.

Obviously she wants to do something to put the dog out it's misery without getting into trouble herself. That's reasonable.

Jonquil
10-20-2009, 01:06 AM
If the OP takes the dog to a vet for treatment, there's no guarantee that the vet would do the treatment for free because it's a stray dog. Injuries like she described would likely cost an astronomical amount to treat.

And if we're talking taking it to the vet to have it put down, even that can be expensive. I had to have one of my cats put down because she had FIP. It cost about $80 and this was five years ago. If vet prices go the way of everything else, it's more expensive than that now. The OP may not be able to spend the money on it. I wouldn't be able to, if I were in her situation.

Justicedog
10-20-2009, 08:08 AM
I called the H.A and they say that they will not pick up the dog and if I bring him in I can be charged with animal cruelty. The vets will not make a 'home'visit to euthanize the dog.

I'd keep calling, asking for supervisors. I'd contact the ASPCA, PETA and any other animal organization I could find in my area. I'd call the media.

I'd call my representatives. Part of living in society is that society has mechanisms for dealing with these things. I'd be damn furious that my local government fails to act in a reasonable and humane way.

I'd call the prosecutor's office. I hardly think that bringing an injured dog to the humane society or animal control or whatever would fit the elements of animal cruelty. That's absurd and anyone who works for an animal control/humane society should be fired to suggest such a thing.

I think I may try contacting all the vets to see if they'd do anything, offer to pay what I could.

JudyJudyJudy
10-20-2009, 09:34 AM
Julie, try contacting someone here:

http://www.hspr.org/Home.aspx

Amy_G_
10-20-2009, 10:04 AM
Julie lives in Puerto Rico.
what we would do, what we can expect here in the US, is going to be different there, because it's a different country and things work differently.
the link Judy sent might help, but if local human society and police don't care, it may be out of her hands to really do anything.

Babyblue
10-20-2009, 12:17 PM
I would shoot the dog, if that was not possible I would lure it somewhere out of site and kill it with a shovel or an ax.

This is something I have thought of often in regards to my horses. If one of them was ill or injured enough that they couldn’t be saved I would shoot them myself. Vets in my area will put a horse down and it would cost several hundred dollars. The vets also wont rush out to do it, so the horse will be in agony for several hours if not till the next morning.

Nipple_nectar
10-20-2009, 08:25 PM
Ack! I need an update!

hidesome
10-20-2009, 09:26 PM
I would shoot the dog, if that was not possible I would lure it somewhere out of site and kill it with a shovel or an ax.

This is something I have thought of often in regards to my horses. If one of them was ill or injured enough that they couldn’t be saved I would shoot them myself. Vets in my area will put a horse down and it would cost several hundred dollars. The vets also wont rush out to do it, so the horse will be in agony for several hours if not till the next morning.

I'm with you 100%. It is pretty common here to hit animals (dog, deer, elk etc.) on the highway. Most people just let them die a miserable death. I've put more than a few animals down that were left by other people. An axe or a tire-iron work pretty well if you aren't shy and strike a clean, hard, blow right to the back of the skull. Normally, I'd have a gun with me. Unfortunately, it is illegal to carry a gun in a National Monument around here and because of that unconstitutional, commie gun-hater law, I frequently do not. I won't ever take a pet of mine to the vet again. I do a much better job with far less trauma.

leosmommy
10-21-2009, 12:36 AM
Hidesome, you sound so much like my father, a lot of the time. My parents own a farm, and many times an animals demise falls to my father. Does he enjoy it, never. Is it humane to put an animal of it's misery when it cannot be helped, always.
Julie, I hope this poor animal is out of it's misery soon. Thank you for being compassionate enough to care.