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LadyLiberty
11-22-2007, 08:20 PM
Feel free to add your own tips, situations, and thoughts.

Something I have noticed a lot lately, here and other places, is that a lot of moms decide to wean around 16-20 months for reasons that could be resolved. First, I want to say that I think moms who nurse a child for 16-20 months have every right to be proud of the wonderful start they have given their child. Weaning is a personal choice and I am not being judgmental about the choices women make, truly.

The reason I post this is because I went through a time with my twins at about that age that nearly drove me to weaning them. They would simply not night wean and they would nurse a LOT during the day when I was not at work. I was still pumping at work to keep my supply adequate for when I was home, even though they had begun refusing pumped milk in bottles. I was up and down at night and was becoming a cranky zombie during the day. Co-sleeping did not help, no matter what arrangement we tried. It was truly awful and I was in tears over it at least twice a week.

I'm sure this information will scare a few newbies, but my point is that this type of behavior from a toddler of this age is common. A quick poll of several EN moms I know uncovered similar situations in their homes. Awake all night. Baby demanding the breast. Feeling like you can't get away, even for a few hours. No sleep. Touched out. The thing is that everyone who made it to the other side began to enjoy nursing again.

Here again, I don't want to mislead anyone. It never went back to the quiet enjoyment that I got from newborn nursing, but it was enjoyable again and I was no longer bleary-eyed. They night-weaned on their own and I remember those first few nights of sleep. It felt so luxurious.

A year later, we are still nursing and I look back at the myriad of difficulties I have had nursing the twins. Unplanned, unnecessary c-section with four-hour separation and administration of formula against my wishes. Bad latch resulting in cracked and bleeding nipples. Colostrum times 6 days, until the glorious arrival of milk early on day 7. Thrush times 6 weeks. Supply problems requiring herbal and eventually prescription intervention. Mastitis. Unexplained sores, painful beyond all belief for something so tiny. Plugged ducts. Biting. Blood blister. Lazy latch. Fly-by nursing. Plugged Montgomery's gland that is painful during nursing, so much so that I want to push the baby off my lap. And, the period of time between 16-20 months when I was exhausted and desperate for BF to be over.

By far, the worst of it was the 16-20 month period. I am far on the other side of it and so glad that I persevered. I can absolutely understand why many would not do it. It was very, very stressful. Part of the stress for me though was not realizing that it happens a lot and it would end sooner than later. My hope is that some mother who would like to continue, but is at her wit's end might see this and feel some glimmer of hope that it can continue AND end well.

If you have some similar observations, please add them here. Thanks!

Lieselotte
11-23-2007, 01:59 PM
I nursed Thomas for 3 years, 4 months until I weaned him. At 18 months he went through a very intensive nursing stage, it was almost like nursing a newborn again. I worked during the day, but when I was with him he wanted to nurse all the time. I think this period co-insided with him getting some molars as well.

For me this time also co-insided with the return of my cycles. I had very tender nipples a few days before my period would come and my milk supply would drop dramatically while I was bleeding. This led to Thomas wanting to nurse more aggressively while I had very sore nipples, not a very happy combo.

I muscled through that stage and by 2 was really enjoying nursing until 3. At 3 I reached some sort of internal point where I had had enough. I tried to encourage weaning starting after his 3rd birthday and ended up forcing weaning at 3 years 4 months as I couldn't take it any longer and the stress of nursing against my will was starting to have a negative impact on our relationship. For me at 3, somehow I just wasn't mentally comfortable with him nursing any more, it wasn't a physical issue. Now 3 months later he still talks about nursing, asks to nurse frequently, and still likes to hold and pat my breasts. I am trying to slowly wean him off of patting them.

With Jackson (my older child), he was a very aggressive nurser and at about 12 months I was feeling very touched out and tired of constantly reminding him not to bite, pinch etc. He also had a very strong suck which was uncomfortable. We continued to nurse until 18.5 months. Between 16 months and the end he gradually lost interest on his own and self weaned at 18.5 months. I didn't actively encourage him to continue as I was planning on getting pregnant again soon (and was within 6 weeks). I felt that the nursing relationship between Jackson and I had ran it's course and was sad to see it end, but was ready to move on.

Lilo

Buttercup78
11-28-2007, 09:28 PM
Interesting. My littlest is 14 months and nurses all.night.long. He has a mouth full of teeth and is constantly teething, so I know that could be part of it. The babe before him was DD and she slept through the night from 4 weeks on. But the babe before her, another boy, he didn't sleep through the night til he was 23 months old. I was beginning to wonder if this was normal and here I come across this post. Thanks! PS: Do you think boys are more "attached" to nursing than girls?

Marina
02-25-2008, 08:08 AM
PS: Do you think boys are more "attached" to nursing than girls?

Not if you throw my girl into the mix, lol.

My dd will be four at the end of May. I'm at the stage where I am truly wanting to wean, and I am encouraging it. Nursing is just not physically comfortable for me anymore -- I find myself feeling "violated" most times, if that makes sense. "Touched out" doesn't quite describe it, because she honestly doesn't nurse that often anymore.

Like everyone else, we went through a real nursing frenzy just before the age of two. Actually, I'd say that her entire 2nd year was quite a nursing party -- I was home with her during that time, and for the life of me if I sat down, there'd she'd be, wanting to nurse, lol! I had a sling that really helped; at least it made us mobile.

The biggest issue was night weaning. We started around the age of 18 months to attempt night weaning. We also coslept (still do). She didn't night wean (pretty much on her own) until about 2 or 3 months ago. After each attempt, I'd say, "This just isn't worth it": screaming fits for 2 hours in the night, even while daddy or I was holding her. She just. couldn't. part with them!

She really didn't nightwean until *she* was cognitively ready (note I say "cognitively", not "emotionally"; I honestly believe she would have kept up the pace until she was 10, lol!) At 3 1/2, I could reason with her and she understood.